Motors That Run On Water

[John-D]

Well M.M. Lee.. Of all the after market performance enhancers out there.. The Ultra Power is the one I"m looking at.. Perhaps id 3 or 5 years I'll stock up enough green stamps to afford one.

And as for the car dealer who decided to test the claims.... Gee.. No time to install it, never has time to get to your car.. Amazing, how that works, you can't show it up for the ...... (black tank contents)...... It is unless they install one.

Some times you have to work a bit to figure out what the scam is.. Some of 'em you can see dang near with your eyes closed.. There is a You Tube video that shows a motor running on all kinds of junk.. I'm not sure if it's running on propane or hydrogen but I know what it's not running on , and that's what's in the "Fuel jar"

Oh well. Fun to watch folks buy into the scam.

One television station did a test on several devices, Including HHO generators and such and they did discover one device that, in their opinion , was worth the money and did improve millage.

Scan Gauge II

Did not modify the engine one bit, made no change to the car DID modify the driver

[MtManLee]

I went to the forum people keep refering to for HHO. After reading indepth even those who are posting there say it takes more power to operate the HHO device than its worth and they also are saying that the potential exist for improvement. That may be true but there is already a hydrogen fuel and hydrogen vehicles being tested for sale and consumer use. So why bother spending money on something that may or may not work, causes more energy and fuel consumptiong to use, and the water also caused problems with computerized engines. Sounds like a way for someone to make money and rip off others and cause a lot of cars to break down. Maybe they also own a repair garage so they sell the devices and than repair the breakdowns. What a market.

[RustyJC]

In today's marketplace, fleet fuel economy requirements are being increased, carbon cap and trade is being tossed around (which has the result of making the use of any carbon-based fuel significantly more expensive), the consumers are looking to economize which incentivizes the manufacturers to offer vehicles with the lowest cost-per-mile, etc. In addition, gasoline and diesel fuel prices will not remain at today's levels once demand begins to pick up again as the economy improves.

Given the above, an automotive engineer would throw his mother under the bus for an economically justifiable 1/2 mile per gallon improvement in fuel economy, and the ability to use a cheap, non-carbon-based fuel would be an absolute game-changer. Which all leads to my point - if it made technological sense for engines to "run on water", you'd find that technology on the showroom floor today.

Rusty

[John-D]

Of course, every time I see this topic I keep thinking that there are several motors that do, in fact, run on water.

For example internal combustion motors by Johnson or Evenrude I'm told Yahama makes some too.

And someone up-thread mentioned some engines that TRULY run on water. Like one made by Stanley and I recall riding on few different steam boats (Genuine steam powered boats) like the one at Greenfield Village.

But of course. that's not what this thread is about

Heck, Even Packard made some lovely 12 cylinder internal combustion jobs that ran on water.. Just McHale (McHale's Navy) or John F Kennedy (Alas, you can no longer ask him in this life) those PT boats had 3 of 'em

[BOB E]

I always thought "motors" ran on electricity, . . .engines are powered by a variety of combustable fuels with exception of one, . . .that runs on water, . . . most commonly known as a steam engine.

[RustyJC]

I was taught the difference between "engines" and "motors" in engineering school as well, and for the last 35+ years I've worked for a company that builds industrial engines. Unfortunately, the distinction has been watered down by motorcycles, General Motors, the Ford Motor Company, etc.

Rusty

[Bruce and Jenna]

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Originally Posted by RustyJC I was taught the difference between "engines" and "motors" in engineering school as well, and for the last 35+ years I've worked for a company that builds industrial engines. Unfortunately, the distinction has been watered down by motorcycles, General Motors, the Ford Motor Company, etc. Rusty

No wonder General Motors is in trouble. They can't even name their company correctly.

And what about Motor Trend magazine? Huh, huh, huh?

Personally, I blame Chuck Berry and his song Maybellene. "I knew it was doin' my motor good.

[MtManLee]

Well I am only going to say that should we ever go to an engine that actually runs purely on water I will fight it with everything I own in this world. We lack water now across the world. With retrictions on watering in the summer. Lack of water for crops, who in his right mind would want to make it worse? Even the drinks we drink have to have water to make them, so if we start running out than we wont even have drinks to fall back on in leau of water. The wise man is the one who stops his whining and starts trying to improve on what he already has instead of trying to find an easy way out. Alright whiners have at it tear into me.

[Bruce and Jenna]

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Originally Posted by MtManLee Well I am only going to say that should we ever go to an engine that actually runs purely on water I will fight it with everything I own in this world. We lack water now across the world. With retrictions on watering in the summer. Lack of water for crops, who in his right mind would want to make it worse? Even the drinks we drink have to have water to make them, so if we start running out than we wont even have drinks to fall back on in leau of water. The wise man is the one who stops his whining and starts trying to improve on what he already has instead of trying to find an easy way out. Alright whiners have at it tear into me.

Ha ha ha! I thought you were a crackpot until you pointed out the effect on alcoholic beverages.

But look at it this way. Ocean water is rising. Which will cover the fish. Making it difficult to catch them. If we burn up water for transportation, we can drop the water level and find more fish. Maybe even new, more delicious species. Like that Fugu fish that the Japanese eat and occasionally die from because of the poison. http://japanesefood.about.com/cs/sea...gublowfish.htm

We can drink our cake and drive it too. Don’t worry. Be happy!