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08-23-2008, 03:07 PM
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The Chronicle Hearld
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"When you take a guy from here to the airport you show him that the Escalade burns 13 liters of gas from here to there, then I turn the switch on for my system, drive back the same mileage and burn two liters "” this is when you get people's attention," said Hoyeck, who has been a mechanic for 16 years and has been working on his invention for four years.
It's his knowledge of chemistry (he was first in his high school chemistry class in Lebanon) that made it possible for him to get 37 kilometres per litre in a Cadillac Escalade.
"You still put gasoline in the tank but your vehicle is burning very little gas, and you only change your oil half as often. It runs on hydrogen, mixed with fuel," he said. "It's better for the environment, better for your car and it actually provides more power.
"Our machine works with the computer of your vehicle. The signal that comes from your O2 sensor tells our system how much hydrogen to create, how much hydrogen to go into your combustion chamber. I can tune it up to the level where you're burning very, very little fuel, up to (68 kilometres per litre) in a Honda Accord."
To investigate the claim, The Chronicle Herald arranged with Hoyeck to drop off a car and have one of his devices installed. A 2001 Mazda Protégé spent one whole day at his shop, but at the end of the day we were told there hadn't been enough time to do the installation.
We made another appointment, leaving the car for three hours but again, no device. When we went back for our third appointment, we were told there was no time for us that day.
According to people in the car business, it might have been a blessing in disguise.
Kelly Coutts, the co-owner of City Mazda in Halifax, said any device added to a vehicle's fuel system could affect warranty coverage. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That must be some chemistry course in Lebanon
As Barnum said one born every ?
Cheers Willey
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08-23-2008, 03:07 PM
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The Chronicle Hearld
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"When you take a guy from here to the airport you show him that the Escalade burns 13 liters of gas from here to there, then I turn the switch on for my system, drive back the same mileage and burn two liters "” this is when you get people's attention," said Hoyeck, who has been a mechanic for 16 years and has been working on his invention for four years.
It's his knowledge of chemistry (he was first in his high school chemistry class in Lebanon) that made it possible for him to get 37 kilometres per litre in a Cadillac Escalade.
"You still put gasoline in the tank but your vehicle is burning very little gas, and you only change your oil half as often. It runs on hydrogen, mixed with fuel," he said. "It's better for the environment, better for your car and it actually provides more power.
"Our machine works with the computer of your vehicle. The signal that comes from your O2 sensor tells our system how much hydrogen to create, how much hydrogen to go into your combustion chamber. I can tune it up to the level where you're burning very, very little fuel, up to (68 kilometres per litre) in a Honda Accord."
To investigate the claim, The Chronicle Herald arranged with Hoyeck to drop off a car and have one of his devices installed. A 2001 Mazda Protégé spent one whole day at his shop, but at the end of the day we were told there hadn't been enough time to do the installation.
We made another appointment, leaving the car for three hours but again, no device. When we went back for our third appointment, we were told there was no time for us that day.
According to people in the car business, it might have been a blessing in disguise.
Kelly Coutts, the co-owner of City Mazda in Halifax, said any device added to a vehicle's fuel system could affect warranty coverage.
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That must be some chemistry course in Lebanon
As Barnum said one born every ?
Cheers Willey
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08-24-2008, 11:52 AM
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he isn't alone!!! Check out this for more on HHO systems.
http://hhoforums.com/index.php
Enjoy!! Dan
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08-24-2008, 03:25 PM
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The only motor that I know runs on water is found in a boat.
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08-27-2008, 10:06 AM
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i thought boats float on water, didnt see any running then again its hard to see, as far as a motorhome didnt see any on the water eighter
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09-30-2008, 08:04 PM
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Didn't Stanley build one that ran on a water byproduct many years ago?
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10-01-2008, 06:58 AM
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the link takes you to a newspaper but not the article.
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10-01-2008, 04:12 PM
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Here we go again.
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10-10-2008, 05:21 PM
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03-19-2009, 10:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry7
i thought boats float on water, didnt see any running then again its hard to see, as far as a motorhome didnt see any on the water eighter
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MotorHome on water_
http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
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03-20-2009, 09:51 AM
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REading the original post I recall a few years back reading about the 14 MPG motor home
Well. I was driving across Texas at the time and I was getting around 13.8 (round it off and it's 14mpg) on my 2005 Damon Intruder 377W Gasser (8.1L Vortec)
not the "Sticker" millage on this box is closer to eight, not 14 but eight
So, how come I was pushing 14MPG in Texas?
100MPH tail wind of course I'm not kidding, the wind was 90-110 mph and coming from dead astern I was running with the wind.
(I made up for it in Missouri where the wind was coming from the front, six MPG there)
Showing someone you burn less gas coming than going may just be natural. I know of many such cases. My brother is an OTR Semi driver and commented many times that given the same load he'd burn more fuel going from his base to the area I live in than returning. Every time. Same millage, same roads even, but he burned more fuel one way than the other.
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03-20-2009, 10:50 AM
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Oh you doubting Thomasinas.
His device generates hydrogen. Which accumulates under the hood.
Hydrogen is lighter than steel. So the hydrogen raises the front of the car, which reduces the weight. Which improves the gas mileage.
Putting sandbags in the trunk would also raise the front of the car. But those bags leak and make a mess. That's why they call hydrogen a clean fuel.
Now you know.
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03-20-2009, 12:28 PM
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Good one Bruce. LOL Does the mean if we hook up a hot air balloon to our rig we might get better gas mileage as well? LOL
Hey John, I have always averaged 6 mpg uphill and being from Utah you travel a lot of up hills as well as down. But anyway I got the Ultra power on my 8.1 in Az during the rv show at Quartzsite this year. Driving back to Utah which is mostly up hill our mileage went up to 7. I used to average 7 to 7 1/2 on the flat roads so hope to see that go up to 8 now as well. And the power difference on the up hill was wonderful.
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03-21-2009, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce and Jenna
Oh you doubting Thomasinas.
His device generates hydrogen. Which accumulates under the hood.
Hydrogen is lighter than steel. So the hydrogen raises the front of the car, which reduces the weight. Which improves the gas mileage.
Putting sandbags in the trunk would also raise the front of the car. But those bags leak and make a mess. That's why they call hydrogen a clean fuel.
Now you know.
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Perfect logic Bruce, perfect logic!! Thanks for the explanation.  
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