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Old 06-12-2019, 07:06 AM   #43
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I'm 90% sure I already have the correct hose for the heater stored in Connie. It's the one I used before you helped me connect to the onboard tank. It is about 4í long. There are also 2 BBQ bottles that I left there. One belongs to you.
You are likely correct about the hose but the propane bottle is now yours; finders keepers rules.



I would bet that the insulation material could also go on the outside then be covered with siding material which would make it great for keeping the cold in and the hot out; and vise versa.
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That insulation ainít cheap. Just inside will have to do for now. But it's an option should I ever decide to spend summers there. Or I could turn it into an earthship by stacking rammed earth used tires on the south side.

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The earthships have a low south facing window with a sloped roofline that allows heat to escape through windows. Behind, on the north side, they store water and have buried plastic pipes that channels air into the building as the hot air rises out windows. The buried pipes are deep enough to get cooled by the soil and provides a natural air conditioning. The windows along the top ridge can be opened to let heat out or closed to retain heat. The low slope of the roof shelters the interior from the summer heat but captures the winter sun which shines onto the back wall and floor of the house, providing solar heat.


We visited their model home several times, but once in late September when the weather was brooding and blustery. Inside, it was very comfortable, they had fruit and vegetable growing in their greenhouse that were way past their season. It made a lasting impression.
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I'm thinking that given the different climate in southern Arizona an earthship would need to be oriented to the north rather than south. Even in the winter very little heating is needed down there. Keeping a house cool is the major objective.

I’ve yet to find any workable ideas for earth sheltered homes in very hot climates that aren’t almost totally underground. But it makes sense to me that the extra mass of earth filled tires on the southern side could only help with cooling.

I'm also planning to capture and store rainwater from a 42’x12’ south facing sloped roof that will also hold solar panels at a 45* angle and provide some shading of the south wall.

More than anything I’m excited about making innovation work in the desert in an off grid home.
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Obviously this project has grown!
In another year it may be 4 stories tall with full hook up campsites surrounding it!
Go get em Barb! Just watch out for Mitzi. She is ferocious.
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Hi Scott! We've missed you and Mariella. Will we see you in AZ again next winter? I'm thinking about maybe doing the FMCA rally in Tucson in mid October. You interested?

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Hi Scott! We've missed you and Mariella. Will we see you in AZ again next winter? I'm thinking about maybe doing the FMCA rally in Tucson in mid October. You interested?

Mizzie? A force to be respected for sure!


We have been busy getting house ready to sell. We had a tornado through town and that set us back about 10 days.
I havenít even touched the coach since we got home! I need to knock out the punch list from the winter in Az but getting the house on market is the priority!
We should be in Q after Christmas. Hopefully living in Pensacola by fall whether in a house or full time in the coach until we find what we want. We may have to build our own one last time since we havenít had luck finding one so far. If we build it will more than likely have a attached coach garage!
Hope all is well with you Lilly and Siena, and we look forward to visiting in the winter.
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Scott, believe it or not we have not been able to find Honey Bourbon north of the border. DW almost in withdrawals.


With luck Mizzie will be in Q next winter for a while making sure everyone tows the line and gets in on the cuddles.


We are also looking forward to again visiting with Scardy Cat.
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Sure miss the stuff, wanna e-mail me a couple of ounces?
Next American stop will be Sault Ste Marie Michigan and hopefully some one there will stock it.
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We know about hot weather. We stopped in Madrid NM one very hot summer afternoon and took a tour of the abandoned mine. It was a simple walk down a wooden stairway into the shaft but we left by the stairway into the blacksmith's shop. It was so cool inside we thought it was air conditioned. After the tour we exited the wood shack into the bright summer daylight, and the summer heat. Apparently, the wood shed drew up the cool air and kept the building very comfortable.

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From the photo it looks like the mine is in the side of a hill. That probably gives it a considerable amount of earth above it so that the mine stays consistently cool. My property is flat. I don’t think I can plane enogh sand around it to help it stay cool.
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I've seen two type of underground cooling systems. One is a horizontal trench, dug about 6 feet deep with two 12" pipes running about 30 feet and the other is more like a well with a vertical shaft that allows cool air to be pulled by rising heat. If the soil is stable the shaft might be the easier but more expensive option.






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I know 6í deep would work in most parts of the country, but Iím wondering if in the desert 6í is deep enough to make it worth the investment of time and materials.

From what I've read shading and ventilation is most effective. Cheaper and easier, too. My first project there will be to put on a slanted roof that will be wider than the container. It will provide shade and the gutters at the bottom will capture rainwater.

https://www.modlar.com/news/180/dese...or-the-desert/

The surface is all sand on my lot so stable it's not.
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