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cubman · 06-03-2008, 12:15 PM

I saw this one website that proclaimed that you could use water instead of gas. It claims to have a conversion kit that makes h20 hh. suposedly you can adapt it to any engine.
Not being born yesterday. I am a bit skeptical,
but what if it really works. Just a thought
We could travel coast to coast with out an arm
and leg.

cubman · 06-03-2008, 12:15 PM

I saw this one website that proclaimed that you could use water instead of gas. It claims to have a conversion kit that makes h20 hh. suposedly you can adapt it to any engine.
Not being born yesterday. I am a bit skeptical,
but what if it really works. Just a thought
We could travel coast to coast with out an arm
and leg.

Grumpy9 · 06-03-2008, 12:31 PM

We have been hearing this for years, but nothing develops.
Personally, I think that they should be experminting with "black water". It already has a certain amount of "gas", in it.

Lindsay Richards · 06-03-2008, 01:56 PM

Reminds me of that guy has invented the carburetor that will make any car get 100 mph. This guy was bought out by the gas companies so they could see their product at 23 cents a gallon. This was in 1962 ad I am still waiting on that carburetor. The facts are that if nuclear fusion ever is perfected, there is more energy in 5 gallons of water (holding it in balance) than a tanker of gasoline, but billions have been spent all over the world trying to fix it. Unfortunately we are going to be fossil fuel based for the next several decades.

Bill Davis · 06-03-2008, 02:41 PM

Can you say "urban legend?"

MtManLee · 06-05-2008, 04:13 PM

thru out my life I have heard a few times of people who build cars to run on water but have yet to see one in action. I know they have the hydrogen cars now but they have not done a full production. Seem I saw where they had them in taxi cab mode right now in some city to test the idea. there is also two companies out there that have created cars that run on compressed air. Now that is the one for me.

NeilV · 06-05-2008, 06:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MtManLee:
thru out my life I have heard a few times of people who build cars to run on water but have yet to see one in action. I know they have the hydrogen cars now but they have not done a full production. Seem I saw where they had them in taxi cab mode right now in some city to test the idea. there is also two companies out there that have created cars that run on compressed air. Now that is the one for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The problems with a car that runs totally on Browns Gas is the amount of water vapor in the exhaust. All the combustion system parts have to be able to last in a hot, wet, acidic environment so an easy 100% conversion dosn't exist. Even if you got an effecient Browns Gas converter and tried for a partial injection you still have to overcome the ECM trying to richen the mixture as it may see the changes from the Browns Gas as a sign of overheating and actually waste more gasoline then before.

A car that goes up to 67 mph and travels 120 miles on a $6 tankup of compressed air does sound pretty attractive even if it does look like something only Steve Erkel would be comfortable being seen in.

sgtjoe · 06-06-2008, 07:15 AM

MtManLee, Back about 20 years or so ago wasn't there a guy around the Levan, UT. area that had developed a carburator that got great mileage?
Wonder what happened to him.
Also, folks there was a guy who worked for a company in Provo Utah who drove a green VW bug that had a sticker on it saying Hydrogen Powered. When I talked to him he said they developed it while in College as a Science project, should have listened more closely.

NeilV · 06-06-2008, 01:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sgtjoe:
MtManLee, Back about 20 years or so ago wasn't there a guy around the Levan, UT. area that had developed a carburator that got great mileage?
Wonder what happened to him.
Also, folks there was a guy who worked for a company in Provo Utah who drove a green VW bug that had a sticker on it saying Hydrogen Powered. When I talked to him he said they developed it while in College as a Science project, should have listened more closely. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We all should have listened more closely. My Dad used to power commandered Japanese vehicles with stills as a Top Kick with the Jungle Raiders during WWII. Free fuel made from jungle growth rotting on the sides of the roads.

TandW · 06-06-2008, 02:33 PM

Can everyone say "Stanley Steamer"?

TXiceman · 06-06-2008, 03:32 PM

Yes, but the Steamer still has to have some form of fuel to burn to boil the water to make steam. The fuel such as oil, coal or wood since they did mot have necular power in those days.

Ken

NeilV · 06-06-2008, 07:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TXiceman:
Yes, but the Steamer still has to have some form of fuel to burn to boil the water to make steam. The fuel such as oil, coal or wood since they did mot have necular power in those days.

Ken </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another good candidate for an onboard still generating fuel from garbage. Dad said sometimes you did have to pull over and wait to get a little reserve built up when powering an internal cumbustion engine in this manner but it was managable.

MtManLee · 06-06-2008, 07:35 PM

I know the kits being sold on the net are a scam out there to rip off the people. The taxis being tested in Calif are two years out from knowing if its feasible. There have been several hydrogen cars built in colleges but the next major problem is setting up hydrogen stations to refuel them. You cannot just add water, it will not work.
As for the man in Levan, Utah he passed away about three or four years ago. He did make a statement a few years before his death when he was interviewed by KUTV 2 news, that he was paid a lot to sell his idea or copyright to one of the big three auto companies for a lot of money. He did not disclose who and he died a rich man so who is to say.