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05-16-2013, 08:08 PM
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I am not sure about any "win win " until all the cards are on the table.
I watched Monaco purchase, HR, then Beaver and then Safari .......
Something usually gives, then goes ......
Monaco owners better hold their breaths, IMHO
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05-16-2013, 08:17 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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Originally Posted by wwalpole
Come on people, the glass is half full, not half empty. Us Monaco owners have been through some trying times, this has to be some positive news. Navistar is trying to get back on it's feet. I think this is a win win situation for everyone. Good luck to every one.
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It's only a win-win if Fleet wood doesn't "down build" the Monaco/HR products... Not trying to rain on anybodies parade, but I looked at Fleet wood and American Coach (along with a bunch of other brands) and chose Monaco because of it's build quality. I just helped a buddy of mine pick out a coach last month. He went down to Tom Johnson set on buying an American Coach (2008) however, after looking at the A/C and then comparing it to a HR Navigator (2007) he bought the Nav....Again, not trying to start a war on which coach is better, just stating my MHO...
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05-16-2013, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2013
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I think its great news! Just my $.02
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05-16-2013, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddypaws
Funny. Ironic. Payback's a B.
The DW and I were looking at several Monaco coaches and when the sales douche found out we had a Bounder he made several rude, crude, and disparaging comments about Fleetwood in general and Bounders specifically. (That dealership went out of business a few months later)
Now they're going to be step-sisters! It's like daddy got re-married and chose the girl from the wrong side of the tracks!
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I like it!!!!
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05-16-2013, 10:42 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Signal Hill, California
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Looks like everything is working out A-OK for everyone. deSanford
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05-17-2013, 05:00 AM
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Location: Greer, SC
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LOL. I guess the sunny side would be if they bought Navistar RV so they could teach Fleetwood something, anything about what quality is. Cause they have no idea.
Interested to know what the purchase price was or terms. I suspect very low, if not a stock swap or some kind of debt assumption.
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05-17-2013, 06:17 AM
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Decreasing competition is never a good thing, IMHO.
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05-17-2013, 06:35 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
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Only time will tell how this pans out for us. I just hope they do as well with building coaches moving forward as Navistar did.
Our new Diplomat so far has been, great, we have had a few minor issues, but nothing I couldn't easily fix myself.
On our initial walk through the only thing we could find was a scratched toilet seat lid.
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05-17-2013, 09:51 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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My question would be, does this include the roadmaster chassis and if so will they use them on their Fleetwood and American line? Could we see Monaco and HR on Freightliners? Here's hoping this is not the end of the RV Roadmaster Chassis.
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05-17-2013, 10:35 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Simi Valley, CA
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I just hope I can still get parts and support for my 08 Monaco.
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05-17-2013, 10:48 AM
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Just my honest opinion but anything is better than selling out to a company only interested in breaking it down for a quick profit. SVC is a strong company with some impressive numbers and products! Fleetwood and AC have had there share of problems 4-5 years ago. Since SVC has acquired them FW and AC have been renewed and is strong as ever. You will hear of John Dreyheim and he is a down to earth person with the future in his vision. He's and his associates are welcome back in our coach anytime. We need to look at this as plus for all involved. Tell him you know Muffin!
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05-17-2013, 01:43 PM
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I could care less about the vultures at Navistar but am pleased that it was sold to the parent company of FW. You may remember that when they bought FW all MH warranties were honored and unlike Navistar they paid all the suppliers. FW continues to provide tech support for all the older MH's and stocks parts as well. I would bet that the chassis will remain a Roadmaster( if Roadmaster was included). I would also bet they will dump that Navistar powerplant and return to the industry standard. I see this as good news for all of us. BTW: There is nothing wrong with the Powerbridge chassis.
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2008 Dynasty 42' Diamond IV
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05-17-2013, 02:04 PM
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I also know and met the chief designer for Freightliner, He was at the Shawnee Ok. FMA Rally two years ago. He was hired away from Freightliner by SVC. This explains why American Coach's are built on FL chassis now.
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05-17-2013, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: SD
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