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Old 06-08-2013, 11:25 AM   #15
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That's really interesting re: the sink going to black tank, when we boondock we run out of grey tank space long before black so I can see how it would be nice to be able to control where the water goes by your choice of sink.

Please keep posting on your Entegra experience...
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Old 06-08-2013, 05:34 PM   #16
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It looks beautiful! My husband and I are buying a 44U Aspire from Lazy Days. Coming in July, Scott Hamilton is our salesmen. We are going in August to pick it up, also staying there for a week to take all classes we can to learn. We are totally new to this, never owned even a tent. Did you take any of their classes and were they helpful? Did LD take care of all your problems with your coach? Sorry to load you with questions, just a bit scared after seeing you had some problems. Any suggestions anyone could give us would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes I think we are in over our heads, but can't wait.
Would also love to see pics of the inside of your coach. Best of luck to you, and enjoy!!
Thanks Karen
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It looks beautiful! My husband and I are buying a 44U Aspire from Lazy Days. Coming in July, Scott Hamilton is our salesmen. We are going in August to pick it up, also staying there for a week to take all classes we can to learn. We are totally new to this, never owned even a tent. Did you take any of their classes and were they helpful? Did LD take care of all your problems with your coach? Sorry to load you with questions, just a bit scared after seeing you had some problems. Any suggestions anyone could give us would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes I think we are in over our heads, but can't wait.
Would also love to see pics of the inside of your coach. Best of luck to you, and enjoy!!
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Between now and then, read everything you can in the forums. Ask questions about things you don't understand.
Scott is a great guy.....and a friend. That said, his job is to sell, making money for LD. They have a vested interest in keeping you a happy customer, just as you want them to stay in business to take care of your coach. This is our 4th MH and third buy from LD.

Regarding problems....
You're purchasing more of a house on wheels, rather than a vehicle that you can live in. Try to keep that perspective. As you go through the process of accepting the coach, you will build a punch list. You'll also find things that aren't just the way you would have done it. In our case, there wasn't a computer workstation...LD did it for us for an ok price. I understand why Entegra (formerly Travel Supreme) dumps the vanity sinks in the black tank...the old gravity dump toilets didn't use much water. But now they use an electric toilet that dumps plenty of water for flushing...they just haven't reevaluated the system yet. You could have either kind or maybe even both kinds, so you'll need to find out when it comes in.

Little things will need adjustments. Sometimes big things too, as the product is very complex, even for modern manufacturing processes. Lazy Days will do a good job, but keep a written log as you work through delivery. Entegra will back it all up, you can be comfortable with that. Both Jimmy and Tiffany do a great job as delivery service advisors. BUT DON'T LET THEM RUSH YOU THROUGH DELIVERY.....Take your time and get every question before you sign the acceptance forms. Drive the coach.

The biggest hurdle will be learning about all the systems, the controls, and how everything is integrated to provide a working unit. Just take it slow and talk to other owners. You're starting with a very sophisticated system, so you're not going to be rubbing sticks together to make fire. Start with little trips before you do your big shakedown, and don't expect to learn everything at once.

I would absolutely advise you to join the Family Motor Coach Association. Let me know if you'd like an application.

If you can....go to Middlebury, IN and see it being built.
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Thank you for taking the time for us, we will keep posted to the Forum to learn as much as we can. We would like to visit Entegra, if we can find the time.
Again, best of luck with the new coach.
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New coach mileage...

2013 Aspire 42DEQ....7.9 mpg average over 2500 miles according to the computer averages...actual Fuel in/miles driven was 7.87 mpg. Driving 62mph most of the time, towing a Ford Edge w/Cricket collapsible golf car inside (@ 5300#). Route took us from Tampa to Asheville, Nc to Fredricksburg, VA and back to Tampa, FL. moderate terrain and moderate weather. A little genset time, and @45 minutes idle time while stuck in traffic. I'm not unhappy with that for a 46,000# coach towing another 5,300#.
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We have Lazy Days working on our A/C Harmonic Vibration issue.... We have the ducted AC system as in the new 2014's...but there is a very loud 'beat' when multiple units are in operation. I'll let you know what they find out.

Sometimes, it's better to ask a tech who is fixing an issue multiple times and across different product lines, than to ask the factory who only knows their one way. I'm hoping by bringing this issue to LD, Kevin can figure out why the harmonic vibration in both the AC/Heat pump modes is so loud. Perhaps that can give Entegra some direction on how to fix their install.

I'm convinced there isn't enough communication between field service technicians and factory engineering in the MH industry. Because the coach designers are essentially systems integrators, they figure out what SHOULD work, and then it becomes policy. I'm thinking there needs to be more communication from the field techs back to the factories. I started out a few years ago thinking there wasn't much quality control in the industry, but after four different kinds of coaches, and my experience with Allison Transmission, I think it's more inertia than anything else. I've only met one designer who wanted to consider Any modification to a design.....let alone correcting a problem. To their credit, Entegra is listening, and I'm really happy about that.
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Pat, be sure to post if you find a solution to the harmonic vibration in the ACs, that is a major source of noise that really should not be there. The solution would be a big help to all Entegra owners with the new AC system installed. It is very quiet when running only one AC or when running numbers one and three. However, it seems that we enjoy having two and three on at night (like to hang meat in the bedroom at night) that we run into the thumping noises when both compressors are running.
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Happy to hear you still love your coach and each other! smile
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