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Old 01-14-2012, 08:51 AM   #1
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30 to 50 amp conversion - pace arrow

I am converting my '03 Pace Arrow to 50 amps. Installing new xfer switch, cable and breaker/fuse box. There are three red wires on a bus bar in the existing box and two yellow on another bus bar. Anyone know what the yellows are for? There is 12v to ground from the yellow, just like the red... but there has to be a reason they are on a separate bus bar in the 12v section of the panel. Help?
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So you're telling me that the three red and two yellow are all feeding 12 volts to the panel ? I can't even figure out why three red. I can see battery, converter...but that's All of the sourced I can think of.

If you've done this, I'd like to talk on the phone.
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In the the AC/DC combo type converters, there are two kinds of power.
there is a filtered line, and an unfiltered line.
the filtered line is used to power things like the radio or maybe a tv, things that don't like AC ripple in the 12 volts.
the unfilterd line, is used for lights and such loads that really don't care about the ripple on the line. At least one of the reds and one of the yellows, comes from the transformer inside the unit.
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Only one red from the converter. All three reds tie together on a bus bar at the 12v distribution panel.

The yellows are still a mystery. Really, one of the reds is too, unless it feeds the generator for starting.

SO far the possible explanations are:

RED = Batteries
Converter
Generator start

Yellows = ??

Still needing help.

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There is NO 12v in a 110v 50 amp transfer box. Pwr from park pwr feeds in and generator feeds in with power out to the fuse box.
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Reread your OP and now not sure what box you are talking about, original fuse/breaker box or ????
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Power conversion.

I am talking about both. Intellitec made the power box used in my coach with one that has the transfer switch hidden behind a circuit board for the 12v fuses and the 110 breakers. All in one box.
My mystery is three red 12v supply wires and two yellow which also have 12v. The new panel has a place for everything but the two yellows..
And the transfer box is going to be separate and much beefier.
Any idea about the two yellow 12 v wires?
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I think it is time for you to contact Fleetwood and see if they have a wiring diagram for your coach.
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Max, let me know the modle number of your Intellitec box, I found some diagrams that might help if I can know what model it is.
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Fleetwood has tried, but they apparently don't have exact coach drawings. I do have the full four page manual, etc. on the Intellitec manual, but it doesn't show the yellow wires. In fact it doesn't say much about the 12 volt circuit board. NO one seems to know about the yellow wires on their own e wire buss bar, next to the red one.
I had hoped one of the old guys at the factory would know, but if there are any -- I couldn't reach him.
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What gauge wire are the Yellow leads Max? Are they fused? I'm thinking you're going to have to track them down to understand why it's set up that way. If they are larger gauge then start by looking at your larger draw items...fridge, furnace etc.
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The yellow and red are the same gauge. About 10 or 8.If you can zoom - this may help you help me. Lower right two yellow.
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