Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-04-2016, 05:01 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
baraff's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,416
AirCon not cooling. Is it worth repairing?

Our air conditioner (RVP Coleman) quit working. The fan and compressor kick on but does not cool. Worked fine the last time we used it in late June.
Are these things worth repairing or are they basically disposable? What does a 15,000 ducted system cost, installed?
__________________

__________________
Burns & Diane
2005 Winnebago Aspect 26A/2012 Subaru Impreza toad
Illinois! - Where the politicians make the license plates......
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
baraff is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-04-2016, 06:13 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
asuperheat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 171
Pretty much disposable, not worth paying someone to repair it unless you know someone in the ac trade that will do it as a favor.
__________________

__________________
2014 Excursion 35B
asuperheat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 06:49 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 119
Don't dismiss it so easy. If the compressor is indeed ON and stays on, then it is a duct/door issue. The compressor will not run if the freon is low and if there is a plugged line it will usually trip off due to high temp or amp draw.
__________________
Bob and Karen. Getting ready to begin a new journey!
1999 Southwind 35S on a F-53 chassis our first class A
buzz57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 07:34 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
keymastr's Avatar
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 802
Get on the roof and remove the cover, clean any debris and clean the condenser. You can find videos on line that show how to clean the condenser and filters.
__________________
keymastr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2016, 08:45 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Texasranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 173
Better to replace whole unit. Top part the same, ducted or non ducted.
Just 4 bolts hold them down. Around $6-650. Shipped.
I'm 69 and can do it. Just get helper to slide up a ladder. 30 min swap out.

Coleman 48204C866 Mach 15 White 15 000 BTU RV Air Conditioner | eBay
__________________
2016 Winnebago Journey 40R See Facebook page for Meridian and Journey.
8.9 Cummins,2016 Ford Explorer or 2004 Jeep Rubicon or 2016 corvette on trl, Vietnam Vet
https://www.facebook.com/groups/754742394667329/
Texasranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Phoenix,Az
Posts: 344
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texasranger View Post
Better to replace whole unit. Top part the same, ducted or non ducted.
Just 4 bolts hold them down. Around $6-650. Shipped.
I'm 69 and can do it. Just get helper to slide up a ladder. 30 min swap out.

Coleman 48204C866 Mach 15 White 15 000 BTU RV Air Conditioner | eBay
Agree, but be sure to check if your present unit has a heat strip then order accordingly.
Bob
__________________
2009 Holiday Rambler Navigator
Cummins ISX-650/1950-tq, Allison 4000
2007 Lexus LX470
RVNewbie55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 06:54 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
baraff's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,416
Actually, this is a heat pump unit. We never use that feature, as we have a portable heater and supplement it with the gas furnace when needed.
I would probably just replace it with a a/c only ducted unit and save a couple hundred.
__________________
Burns & Diane
2005 Winnebago Aspect 26A/2012 Subaru Impreza toad
Illinois! - Where the politicians make the license plates......
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
baraff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 09:24 AM   #8
Community Moderator
 
barmcd's Avatar


 
Monaco Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 4,394
I just replaced our Penguin heat pump-A/C unit. Everything was working fine, but the air coming out wasn't cold enough to keep the coach cool above 90 degrees. I cleaned the coils with coil cleaner to no effect. Even at the cost of a Penguin II, it wasn't worth trying to revive the old unit and even if I had been successful, how long would it have lasted?

The best price on air conditioner units I could find was PPL and I used them to get close to the price with a local RV shop. They charged me $225 to do the install and said they would do it for that price if I bought from them or brought one in.
__________________
Dennis and Katherine
2000 Monaco Dynasty
barmcd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 10:32 PM   #9
Member
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by baraff View Post
Our air conditioner (RVP Coleman) quit working.
Are these things worth repairing or are they basically disposable? What does a 15,000 ducted system cost, installed?
This week, Camping World quoted me a sale price of $1100 and some change for a 15K Coleman. Installed, new face plate, w/ heat strip. The new faceplate and heat strip were optional and added about $150 each (parts & labor) to that total.
__________________
Enjoying the simple life w/a 1994 Winnebago Brave 31RQ (A). Past RVs; RoadTrek (B), Starcraft Pop-up, Coachmen (C), MinnieWinnie (C) and an American Something-or-other (TT). Started it all off as a teenager in a 1964 Apache Pop-up we named Wag Along.
minibike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2016, 06:23 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Tha_Rooster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 4,513
a/c not cooling. Is it worth repairing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by minibike View Post
This week, Camping World quoted me a sale price of $1100 and some change for a 15K Coleman. Installed, new face plate, w/ heat strip. The new faceplate and heat strip were optional and added about $150 each (parts & labor) to that total.

Amazon has a 15k for $700 bucks. 15k heatpumps for $900.
__________________
2007 Fleetwood Revolution LE 40V
Tha_Rooster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2016, 06:29 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Varies Depending on The Weather
Posts: 8,517
Depends on what the problem is that is causing the A/C not to function correctly.

You first have to determine the cause then make a decision as to how much it will cost to repair versus installing a new A/C.

Dr4Film ----- Richard
__________________
Dr4Film is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2016, 10:46 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,492
If compressor is running then it is working...period.

They have a built in sensor or protector that kicks out on a bad compressor (usually) and if fan is running too then the basic stuff is all good.

Just do some basic troubleshooting.

First is it a heat pump?

Do yiu have a thermometer?

Get an ir thermometer as they are great for things like this.

First steps.

Turn unit on and measure temperature delta through the unit.

If it is heating (if you have a heat pump) a common issue is the selenoid coil on the valve goes bad or loose wire or stuck valve.

This valve reverses the flow of the "magic gas" to cool the outside while heating the inside.

Next use a match or lighter to test air flow as blocked air flow can restrict the cooling of the unit.

Last is get the exact model number of your unit which is usually on the bottom where you can see it with the cover removed inside and get a copy of the manual so you can see and follow the troubleshooting guide.

Service guys charge near 100 bucks an hour so consider your time worth that amount in savings to do same thing they will.
__________________
Tony & Lori
1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
TQ60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2016, 10:58 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Old Scout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,928
Think the general rule if that electronics [eg capacitors and motherboards] are worth checking before replacing units but hard to diagnose sometimes--Colman seems to be hard on start capacitors but doesn't sound like your issue. Any leaks in the "Freon" loop [134a, 410a, etc] is a "death sentence" for these roof units...IMHO.....
__________________
Old Scout
2003 40' MDTS
Garden Ridge, Texas
Old Scout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2016, 08:02 PM   #14
Member
 
Nickdalzell1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 48
One of my previous campers and a friends next door had the infamous Duo Therm SunSetter roof units that tended to spontaneously dump their freon when overloaded (instead of having a high pressure shut off switch) and they were from like the '70s.

not sure if Coleman had similar issues but it sounds like it. When it happened to me, instead of shelling out 1,000 dollars plus, I went and got a free one from a junkyard RV ( they used the engine for a race car and were crushing the rest aanyway so they let me have the unit)
__________________

__________________
Nickdalzell1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cooling, repair



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
American Coach: A/C Cooling Fan / Radiator / Cooling GlennLever Fleetwood Products Owner's Forum 11 09-23-2014 04:37 PM
is it worth repairing the toilet pwf16129 Vintage RV's 11 12-05-2011 08:31 PM
Need help repairing HWH leveler AA4WP MH-General Discussions & Problems 8 02-12-2009 10:08 AM
Need help repairing instamatic nathanfox83 RV Systems & Appliances 2 04-03-2007 04:17 AM
Need help repairing water line. Bo RV Systems & Appliances 5 06-12-2006 06:19 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.