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Old 02-09-2014, 03:56 PM   #29
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I believe the Amish folks do the best they can with what they are given by the people they work for. Their (Amish) work when done without the input of some supervisor has always been top notch. It like computers, junk in junk out. Give someone junk to work with and what do expect to get. Just my dime, your mileage may vary........
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:29 PM   #30
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it is bashing every salesman I run across claiming their RV is Amish built.
And there you have it
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:52 PM   #31
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It's a marketing ploy, nothing against the Amish, just about how their reputations are being abused.
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Old 02-09-2014, 06:39 PM   #32
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Not being abused if the product has quality...I'm very happy with my Amish built Entegra...and I was impressed with the workmanship I saw the Amish performing in the Newmar factory as well. As I said earlier. Buy a $20K trailer, you're going to get the opponent inputs for a $20K trailer, be it Jayco any other low end trailer. Buy a $120K Deluxe Suites 5vr or a $900K Mountain Aire, you should expect quality associated with that level RV.
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Jerry, you never did say what brand these salesman claimed were Amish built? If it was newmar, i would say your accusation holds no water. Seems like the ownership and management employ their faiths beliefs and pride in craftsmanship from the top down. Even if a coach uses building products that may be inferior to others that cost more does not mean they were not built and assembled with top notch care and quality. It means that it was well built using the best products possible to achieve a certain price point. Lets face it not everyone can start out with a half million dollar coach but they can certainly expect it to be assembled in an accurate way. If a manufacturer claims their product is Amish built i don't believe you should blame the salesman. But why not, they're an easy target. Right Jerry?
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Hey Jerry,
I hate to burst your bubble... but check out the link to Newmar...

The Newmar Mission & Guiding Principles | Newmar

And note the presidents beard... Or talk to anyone that's visited the Newmar factory when the employees show up at 6 AM on their bicycles and horse drawn buggies...
But they don't mind using power tools then?
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We have toured Newmar and Entegra several times, both employ Amish, Mennonites, and also many non Amish. Everyone seems to have a since of pride in their work ethics and level of craftsmanship. We live near the Ohio Amish community and always search out Amish/Mennonite furniture shops when we need any sort of stand or table, they simply have the highest quality IMHO.
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The Amish in and around Nappanee have received special dispensation from the Bishop and are much more liberal with the use of power tools and driving than in other parts of the country.
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. If a manufacturer claims their product is Amish built i don't believe you should blame the salesman. But why not, they're an easy target. Right Jerry?
I heard it from multiple sales people looking at Thor, forest river Jayco, and others....
I do not recall seeing anything in the manufacturers literature,

So it is not because salespeople are an easy target, it is because they are being dishonest. Certainly the factory is in Amish country, and certainly Amish people are employed, but that does not mean it is amish built, unless you use the federal governments juice policy as mentioned earlier, but then I do not buy fruit juice either, because it has very limited juice, and a lot of sugar water, and artificial flavors. Which makes the fruit juice regs a lie limiter.
I have bought true Amish built stuff in the past, and will in the future. My issue is not with the Amish, or their above average work ethic stereotype, It is with people using the term where it is not true.
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Decatur Indiana area, and the North tier of Indiana (RV Manufacturing Mecca) is home to several Amish communities. I grew up (40 years) in that area and still return to the area for lengthy stays.

The RV companies have used Amish labor for many years, but Amish Built does not have the same value as it once had. The Amish community changes a little with every generation, just as the rest of the nation does. Basically, the manufacturer sets the bar for methods and quality level. IMHO the term "Amish Built" still carries weight if it is truly an Amish venture or service, and does not mean all that much when tied to an RV rolling off the assembly line.
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Jerry the salespeople will say anything to get a sale!!
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And Jayco/Entegra is Amish owned.
Well, close. The Bontrager family (founder and owners) are Mennonite.

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I believe the Amish to be fine craftsmen, but they have to build it like the company owners want, which sometimes equates to "cheap". I don't blame the workers for that!
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