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04-07-2015, 11:29 AM
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Location: Western New York
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Where I have noticed it the most is our two nearby state parks (38 miles away each) we like to use for week long stays while still commuting to and from work every day. Used to be able to drive in, pick out our favorite site and stay as we wished. Now, I have to book in January or I won't get a site. However, living near Buffalo, NY we are just across the Niagara River from Canada and I swear 3/4 of the either park is filled with Canadians, and I think there are more RV'ers amongst them. This year will be interesting because the U.S. dollar is now up by about $.25 on the dollar though our gas is now near half of Canada's.
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04-07-2015, 07:30 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: behind the steering wheel
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its great to see people enjoy the outdoors. i travel 25 to 35 thousand a year in my motor home because of work, and i enjoy every minute of it. some minutes more
than others.
the campgrounds will keep up with the demand. new ones are opening every year. the price of a campsite is going up because of the demand.
its about time the economy started recovering for the middle class too.
i can live with the increase as long as its not too high. i rely on passport a lot.
there are a lot of creative ways to find an overnight spot.
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04-07-2015, 10:12 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manitoba,Canada
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Canada experienced one of the worst winters on record last winter. This winter saw one of the largest exoduses of snowbirds from Canada to avoid the possibility of having to experience another dreadful Canadian winter.
I'm sure this added to the current congested condition.
Jim
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04-07-2015, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
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An issue we've seen increase in the last few years is the amount of either "Full timers" or, what we call "Live-ins", in many parks and campgrounds across much of the western U.S. So many times when we're traveling, we pull into a campground or, an RV park and see folks that have literally TONS OF STUFF, hanging all over the coach/trailer/Fifth wheel etc., tons of stuff tucked underneath, sometimes dog pens, and much, much more.
It seems that many, many campgrounds/RV parks are now accepting more and more "live-ins" which, extremely limits the amount of available spaces for overnighters/few dayers/weekers etc. WE almost never do reservations as we mainly free-flight it all over the place and end up when and where we end up. We've not been turned away too many times but, you sure see most camp grounds etc. with almost full situations more than it used to be.
Scott
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04-08-2015, 06:57 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: northern IL
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When the economy went south, many folks either put off buying a new rig or those thinking about getting into the hobby waited for better times. It created a pent up demand. Now that things are a little better, many people are diving in head first. The rv business is better than before the recession.
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04-08-2015, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,777
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred and Bonnie
Can't speak for others, I make reservations ahead of time, never had a problem.
Fred
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We have been traveling in the south and southwest from Nov - April for 14 of the last 15 years.
We "fly by the seat of our pants"...(seldom making advanced plans and/or reservations).
Only ONCE in those 14 winters did we fail to find a campsite when we wanted/needed one.
That one time was at Potters Creek COE park at Canyon Lake in Texas and we were allowed to dry camp overnight outside the gate, (at no charge), until the next morning, (when a site was vacated).
Mel
96' Safari, 140k miles, (heading home to WI)
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04-08-2015, 08:30 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Snowbird - Waterford Mi and Citrus Springs Fl.
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We fly mostly by the seat of our pants as well. What we've noticed is that if you are going to have problems doing that, it's going to be in more heavily populated areas of the country on a Friday or Saturday evening. The other situation that may bite you is along major freeway corridors during popular travel times (especially for Fri. and Sat. evening!). During color change may be a good example of that, as well as snow bird migration, Christmas, and spring break rushes.
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04-08-2015, 05:39 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Home on the hill in Georgia
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Only place I've ever had a problem finding a place to stay was South Florida in the winter. Usually can find something though
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04-08-2015, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
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To answer your question; no I do not think RV parks are keeping up with demand. Many closed during the depression/recession and probably will not reopen due to start-up costs. Especially in Florida, many RV parks are being bought out by corporations building condos, apts., etc. because land availability and land values have reached the point RV parks owners cannot charge the money required to ward-off developers in their zeal to acquire land for projects.
One instance I remember happened on Florida East coast. A developer offered each lot owner in the RV park $1,000,000-if everyone in the park accepted his offer, which of course they did. Now how can any RV park owner ignore that?
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04-08-2015, 07:51 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club National RV Owners Club
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Speaking for North of the Border on the West Coast, I would say that parks and spaces haven't kept up with the demand.
There are a couple of reasons for this.
1. many of the parks up here are of the older variety. They were initially campgrounds that have tried to make accommodation for the increasing amount of RV's. The result, a few "RV spaces" which in no way really is able to handle the explosion of trailers, camper vans and class C's. I attempted to "book" a space in one of our provincial parks for this easter weekend. Good luck. All the suitable spaces were gone within "minutes" of the season opening of the reservation system. I ended up going south to Wash. St. where I was able to book a spot and many of the State Parks I visited during the days I was exploring had plenty of room. I can find space in a foreign country easier than I can my own back yard.
2. this is still relatively speaking a fairly inexpensive way to holiday. With money tight, this is very attractive for some.
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04-09-2015, 06:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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We always boon docking so no reservation needed
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04-09-2015, 06:53 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Varies Depending on The Weather
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The ONLY times I will make reservations at a specific RV Park is when we plan to stay in that location for a long time.
If I want to stay a night or two to rest up from driving every day, do laundry and check email I never make a reservation. If they are full and don't want my business I move on. If there is none to be found I pick a FREE spot and settle in for the night.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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04-10-2015, 02:58 PM
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Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Corbeil, Ontario
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We have always been fly by the seat of our pants types but it almost bit us this winter. We have spent time in Florida other winters but came close to turning around and heading home. We eventually stayed in two parks and heard time and time again about how busy everyone was. Harsh winter, decent exchange rate in 2014, cheap fuel? Who knows but we would have saved a lot by booking in advance. It is scary though to commit to two months sight unseen. In our area in Ontario campgrounds are not keeping up. I can't recall the last time I saw a new campground open or an existing one expand. Far too many expensive regulations and insurance requirements.
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04-10-2015, 03:22 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: anywhere, USA
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I also think the American Dream of own stick and bricks is changing. More people are realizing that what makes them happy isn't having more "stuff", but enjoying life while they still can.
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