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Old 11-25-2015, 08:21 PM   #15
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One more question? I was told by an out of state dealer that I would pay my California sales tax and license when I return home. Will I have to get a vin verification to complete the registration?? thanks
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Old 11-26-2015, 03:34 PM   #17
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I know this doesn't answer the OP's question, but this reply might help Californians. I bought a new MH in Texas. I made sure it was 50 state smog compliant before I purchased it. After entering California I had 10 days to register it. You have to make an appointment with the DMV to have your MH inspected to make sure it has all the required smog control equipment. This inspection has to be done by someone who is certified to do the inspection. The inspection can't be done by just anybody. Once this inspection is complete you must take the MH to a smog test station to prove that the smog equipment is actually working as required. Then you can pay the registration fee and sales/use tax and complete the process.They don't make it easy.
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Old 11-26-2015, 05:35 PM   #18
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okay, while we're on the subject of property tax. As I understand it Missouri has property tax, but Illinois as I've been told does not. That was the direction I was heading with this line of thought. I can look it up, but does anyone off hand know if Texas has property taxes or am I way off base on this? thanx for the help. Phil

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Old 11-27-2015, 12:05 AM   #19
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Bought our rig in OR (no sales/use tax), when I registered it in WA I got to pay the almost 10% sales/use tax.
The dealer collected the use tax and sent it to the WA DMV along with the required paperwork for the title. WA law wouldn't let me handle the paperwork, had to be sent by the selling dealer direct.
Oh yeah, paid over 10k in WA state taxes for our new rv. At least for many of my purchases I can avoid the sales tax and make a point of doing just that. Watch ads, go to garage sales etc. purchasing many of my needs and wants in this manner.
The DMV entered the wrong VIN No. for our rv. I received a call from the bank wanting to know why the delay registering the vehicle, stressing it has been 3 months and it should have been done before 15 days. I replied yes it is registered and they responded that the DMV had no record of their (bank owned) rv. The voice on the phone got nervous when I said, "Why am I sending you payments for a vehicle on which you have no claim because the DMV says it does not exist". After having a little fun at their expense I told them I will be able to check in on it in a few days. Ended up spending some fair amount of time with the DMV to fix the issue. Finally called the bank and told them it would perhaps be another week for the change to take effect, hopefully keeping them on edge.
So in the end the I was quite involved with handling the paperwork.
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Old 11-27-2015, 12:40 AM   #20
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Oh yeah, paid over 10k in WA state taxes for our new rv. At least for many of my purchases I can avoid the sales tax and make a point of doing just that. Watch ads, go to garage sales etc. purchasing many of my needs and wants in this manner.
You got off easy on the sales tax! On our used Magna it was well over double that just for the use tax. And we only had to pay on the difference between the trade and cost of the "new" rig. Wish we could go with a out of state LLC but WA state doesn't like you doing that. Besides some of that pays my state retirement that I've been drawing since 1999.
When we had our '98 Santara just the yearly license on it in 2000 was over $2,400, then an initiative was passed lowering the yearly tag. That was enough difference to buy our first DP. Now our tags are about $135 a year on the present rig.
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I currently live in Missouri, but I'm buying my RV in Texas. My question is, am I better off paying Texas sales tax or Missouri sales tax or do I even have an option? If this is the wrong place for this discussion please feel free to redirect me to the appropriate location. thanx. Phil
New to the site so hope doing this correctly. Just bought RV and concerned over the high sales tax and registration in Ariz. Check this out, worked for me and is totally legal. Create a Montana LLC, the LLC owns the rig, you pay no sales tax, registration fee is $120 or so, and if its 11yr or older its a one time fee good for as long as you own the rig. The LLC formation was 1,085. Try Action Services.
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New to the site so hope doing this correctly. Just bought RV and concerned over the high sales tax and registration in Ariz. Check this out, worked for me and is totally legal. Create a Montana LLC, the LLC owns the rig, you pay no sales tax, registration fee is $120 or so, and if its 11yr or older its a one time fee good for as long as you own the rig. The LLC formation was 1,085. Try Action Services.
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As one of the tax pros on this forum I'll jump in. You will be paying the sales tax on your purchase based on your state of residency. In your case, Missouri. I did a quick search and didn't find any reference to any personal property taxes in Missouri so you may want to check locally to see if you will be paying anything other than the sales tax and the registration fees.

As to the Montana LLC, well, that's a whole different discusssion. Can it legally be used? Yes, but there are some very, very important caveats to that. You have to find out the registration and residency laws of your state and then see if you can comply with those laws. If you can, then the next step is to determine if you can document your compliance. Lastly, are you willing to pay what it may cost you to defend your use of the Montana LLC if you get challenged by your state Taxation Department. Remember the burden of proof in taxation is with the taxpayer not the state.

Bottom line is that you can legally use the Montana LLC to avoid the sales tax, but you have to KNOW the law, comply with the law, and document that compliance. The Montana law firm will kindly tell you that they are not licensed to practice in your state if you get challenged by your state for the sales tax. As one of my clients found out it can be a very expensive proposition when they hit you for the tax, the interest, and the penalty.
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As one of the tax pros on this forum I'll jump in. You will be paying the sales tax on your purchase based on your state of residency. In your case, Missouri. I did a quick search and didn't find any reference to any personal property taxes in Missouri so you may want to check locally to see if you will be paying anything other than the sales tax and the registration fees.

As to the Montana LLC, well, that's a whole different discusssion. Can it legally be used? Yes, but there are some very, very important caveats to that. You have to find out the registration and residency laws of your state and then see if you can comply with those laws. If you can, then the next step is to determine if you can document your compliance. Lastly, are you willing to pay what it may cost you to defend your use of the Montana LLC if you get challenged by your state Taxation Department. Remember the burden of proof in taxation is with the taxpayer not the state.

Bottom line is that you can legally use the Montana LLC to avoid the sales tax, but you have to KNOW the law, comply with the law, and document that compliance. The Montana law firm will kindly tell you that they are not licensed to practice in your state if you get challenged by your state for the sales tax. As one of my clients found out it can be a very expensive proposition when they hit you for the tax, the interest, and the penalty.
Mo. has personal property tax on everything from your Jackass to your mh.
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Mo. has personal property tax on everything from your Jackass to your mh.

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Old 11-28-2015, 11:52 AM   #25
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To answer your original question.

1. The Texas dealer will not collect any sales tax for either TX or MO.

2. The Texas dealer will give you a temporary tag.

3. You will get your papers in the mail from the Texas dealer in several weeks.

4. Once you get your papers, you can register and get permanent license plate in MO, you will pay your sales tax and pro-rated property tax then.
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Oh how I would love to go on a political rant on all this tax talk, but I will refrain... putting dirty sock in mouth.
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Noel,

You sound like the voice of experience!

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I lived there a good part of my life. Really I like Mo. Most of my relatives either live there or are buried there. However, they have most taxes know to man along with casinos and gambling and still have the same old gravel, if you can call them gravel, roads that were there when I was a kid and that's been more years than I care to remember.
Road commission for counties especially South of I-44 are 50 yrs behind and don't care. Tn. has a third the tax of Mo. and 99% of Tn. county roads I've been on are paved.
I guess all the money goes to St. Louis and KC.
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As one of the tax pros on this forum I'll jump in. You will be paying the sales tax on your purchase based on your state of residency. In your case, Missouri. I did a quick search and didn't find any reference to any personal property taxes in Missouri so you may want to check locally to see if you will be paying anything other than the sales tax and the registration fees.

As to the Montana LLC, well, that's a whole different discusssion. Can it legally be used? Yes, but there are some very, very important caveats to that. You have to find out the registration and residency laws of your state and then see if you can comply with those laws. If you can, then the next step is to determine if you can document your compliance. Lastly, are you willing to pay what it may cost you to defend your use of the Montana LLC if you get challenged by your state Taxation Department. Remember the burden of proof in taxation is with the taxpayer not the state.

Bottom line is that you can legally use the Montana LLC to avoid the sales tax, but you have to KNOW the law, comply with the law, and document that compliance. The Montana law firm will kindly tell you that they are not licensed to practice in your state if you get challenged by your state for the sales tax. As one of my clients found out it can be a very expensive proposition when they hit you for the tax, the interest, and the penalty.
I'm not a tax pro, but MO's requirement is where it is on January 1. If you do not store it in MO or garage it in MO you may be able to utilize the MT LLC depending on the State you garage or store in?

I have boats that are in MO on January 1, not a resident of MO but must pay my taxes including MO personal property tax. Residency does not matter to MO.

There is a lot of misinformation so I encourage you to do your own research based on your personal circumstances, as there are many issues to consider.

If you would like more discussion I would be happy to share some of my experience if you PM me? Good luck.
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