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08-29-2014, 07:04 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: S.W., Michigan
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This works
I found wondering the campgrounds with my hat held out and a quick black marker statement on my forehead puts gas in the tank
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"For GOD'S sake, be human"
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08-29-2014, 07:50 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MI
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Yeah, thur bums alright!
2013 FleetWood Expedition 38B
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08-29-2014, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by SomeDay
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Who cares about labels, just think what the majority of the population are missing out on and we're embracing
Vagrant, Homeless, call me what you want but don't call me late for supper
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X2 ,
I think Michelle should be more worried about why this silly comment bothered her so much. When you choose a non-conventional lifestyle, you should expect dumb comments from uninformed conventional masses. As long as you're happy with your choice, who cares what some uninformed stranger calls it. as the rhyme goes, sticks & stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me
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08-29-2014, 09:25 PM
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Well, Jim2, the comment baffled me more than "bothered" me. It doesn't make sense given its definition. If it does bother me any, it's because I don't like to be "labeled" and especially by labels that aren't even close to being correct. Regardless, I realize people that don't live it don't "get it", and I just kind of rolled my eyes and moved along. I came here to ask if anyone else has heard it used and it seems not many have. If I really cared, I would ask the guy where he heard it used.
So, nah, I'm not really worried about his comment or why it baffles me.
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08-29-2014, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
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We are not full timers, and probably will never be because of all our grandkids ect. But we have only had this MH 6 months and have put about 6,000 miles on it, and we are planning a couple more 3-4 week trips before the holidays get here...so we do use it regulary. But I too get sick if people asking either how we justify the gas expense, or the actual MH expense itself. I've already told a couple of people I don't need to justify anything to anybody(except my Wife of course) and certainly not to them. I worked hard for many years, saved my money, retired, and now get to do whatever we want as we are financially prudent and like this lifestyle. It has always been my dream to see every State in the United States and that is our plan. So i really don't care what those who ask think.
As a side note, every trip we have taken, the gas has been pretty much a wash, as there is no need to get a hotel/eat out all the time, we get to sleep in our own bed, and enjoy the great outdoors...there I go justifying
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2014 Newmar Canyon Star 3610
Orange County, California
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08-29-2014, 11:39 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Rainbow Riding
Posts: 18,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonrover
By golly, I had not considered the "begging" part yet. Novel thought. I may try that at truck stops while refueling my Prevost bus conversion.
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What da ya say we get the band back together...
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2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38F ~ 325 ISB Turbo ~ Freightliner XC 2014 CR-V ~ Invisibrake / Sterling All Terrain
Sioux Falls, SD (FullTime Since Nov 5th 2014)
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08-30-2014, 11:15 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Well, legally we are classed as "Homeless" but yes, "Homeless" is often treated the same as "Vagrant" even if we do not meet the 3 part test (We do not ask (Beg) for money).
Our government is kind of anti-Full Time cause they like to know where we are.... Epically in cases such as mine (Ham Radio Operator, = Emergency Communications Officer).
THUS, they pass laws which basically call us names.
Do I agree with that practice.... Well.. i'm a full timer so I feel we need to have our own Senator and Representative and our own "State" as it were. Perhaps we could call it the "Great State of Confusion" (Ok, that is a joke) It really is "The Great State of FREEDOM"
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08-30-2014, 11:48 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: S.W., Michigan
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Quote:
It really is "The Great State of FREEDOM"
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2003 Winnebago WFG33V Adventurer - 8.1 Gas, Workhorse Chassis - Medium Titanium Metalic
"For GOD'S sake, be human"
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08-30-2014, 11:55 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Rainbow Riding
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It took Karen at Alternative Resources about 40 minutes on the phone to walk me through the paperwork to transfer titles and Registration to the MH and CRV. It was less time than that with them on the phone to fill out the papers to get the mailbox set up. When we fly up there in October - our plates and Registration will be there. We will get our Drivers License switched out - stay a night or two in a hotel and leave as registered voters, with insurance, DLs, plates and be legal residents of SD.
I don't feel homeless - like a vagrant - or any different than anyone else or I ever did. I have moved to several states in my life - 4 in all. South Dakota has actually been nicer, more helpful, and welcoming than any of them.
It does take some time - research and money to do it this way - but for us - it's the right way to do it.
As far as the government wanting to keep up with us - they should make this process - easy - affordable and required. Like getting a passport. They don't keep up with your address - just your entries and exits. Since they don't - I don't buy that are making laws to keep up with us. Use a credit card. Visit a bank or doctor. Use a cell phone. Receive a piece of mail. Get a government check. They know where ya are with as much certainty as when your on vacation and away from the stick and brick. It's probably as much our insistence on the perception of freedom that keeps them from making full time RVer a "residency class" as anything else.
Just my opinion of course - but when you see how relatively easy and inexpensive it is to become a Resident of SD - and I assume and Escapee - or FL resident - it's hard to imagine why all states don't do it.
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2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38F ~ 325 ISB Turbo ~ Freightliner XC 2014 CR-V ~ Invisibrake / Sterling All Terrain
Sioux Falls, SD (FullTime Since Nov 5th 2014)
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08-30-2014, 12:03 PM
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I don't see where the government keeping track of you has anything to do with it. Vagrancy laws were/are just a convenient way to get rid of drifters who [potentially] cause trouble and sponge off the local economy. If you've got money to spend and look even halfway presentable, every state and community will welcome you with open arms. Even though they insist that you stay in a designated RV park instead of the Walmart.
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Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
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09-01-2014, 02:02 PM
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National RV Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: silverdale wa.
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Man, I'm 73 and would I love to be on the road for more time than a week or two at a time,the youngest GD,who lives here in town, announces that she's pregnant and is gonna be needing a grandma babysitter a couple of days a week. Hey,I like grandkids as much as the next person,but I was really looking forward to some month or two trips.
Oh well,I've got two acres to keep me busy on.
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2001 National Tradewinds 7390 LTC
2002 Subaru Legacy outback Limited stick
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09-01-2014, 02:39 PM
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Bigdog, we feel your pain, we love our grandkids and couldn't be without them, but we have babysat all three of them, one 5 year old and two 2 year olds(two weeks apart) since they were two months old. Now that we have the MH the kids think we have to ask them for "vacation time"..."well in advance" if we are going somewhere so they can make other arrangements. Both of us retired so we could travel the country at will in the MH and be gone for several weeks at a time. Oh well I guess we created the monster....
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2014 Newmar Canyon Star 3610
Orange County, California
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09-01-2014, 03:01 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Rainbow Riding
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^^^^ One of the great philosophers of our time said...
http://youtu.be/gU5iLiEySyk
And another said... Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans...
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2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38F ~ 325 ISB Turbo ~ Freightliner XC 2014 CR-V ~ Invisibrake / Sterling All Terrain
Sioux Falls, SD (FullTime Since Nov 5th 2014)
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09-01-2014, 03:41 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North Carolina
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LOL!! I never thought of ourselves as vagrants. We are fters, have a home address in our daughters back yard when needed. We work summers at KOA's, and the rest of the year, we roam the country. Regardless, I don't care what people say about us, we are happy with our life and will continue to travel.
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Raisin our mixed hound and BooBoo our cat.
2004 Itasca Suncruiser
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