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Old 11-22-2013, 07:14 PM   #141
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I have my own wood source and cut my own wood. for house as well for campfires.

would never pay that much for it.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:46 PM   #142
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that's about what I find cg wood for. around here it runs about 220 a cord delivered for hardwood.
$220 sounds like an Oregon price. Albany is about half that price.

It is an imporant issue in Oregon:
http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PLANT/IPPM...ving_wood.aspx
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:56 PM   #143
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sounds like what other states are doing with produce. just a way to make more local money.
kind of a scam.
I do believe campfires will still prevail. if not, who's toes you gonna step on next, and for what. I think it's all down hill from here.
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sounds like what other states are doing with produce. just a way to make more local money. kind of a scam. I do believe campfires will still prevail. if not, who's toes you gonna step on next, and for what. I think it's all down hill from here.
I dont see it as a money grab at all. I have not seen evidence of any active revenue streams by the states on these quarantines. They simply want to halt the damage.

If the bugs can be defeated, it loosens things up. Until then, we should all do our part. Othewise, things may tighten up considerably.

If you are gathering your wood locally, you can burn it locally.

The next time you are in Oregon, please consider buying your wood locally there: http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/Pages/news...8firewood.aspx

The next time you are in New York, please consider buying your wood locally there:
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/28722.html
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In this area the Emerald Ash Borer is devastating the Ash trees. I have a lot of Black Ash on my land and am hoping they do not show up here, but probably they will.
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I'm in a "commuter" bedroom community. Suburban lot lost my 3 ash trees, down the road a "gentleman" who lets say his social life is his only life bought an older class a. We got mailings and signs put up afterwards. Coincidental most likely. But those emerald ash borers have devastated my community.

Also what defines local when it comes to firewood?
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This reminds me of the Walmart threads. There will be many opinions.
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I used to think transporting fire wood for a campfire was no big deal, but when trees start dying because of insects or disease I had to stop. If I inadvertently bring a bug to a beautiful forest and the forest is destroyed, that's a huge loss for everyone. Can't imagine camping without trees!
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I find fire kills all life forms also I was talking legal from bring own wood. also depends what kind of wood if it has organisms in it.
Not if it jumps off first. You think those bugs are going to stick around for the roast? If you light my house on fire I'm going to run.
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Not if it jumps off first. You think those bugs are going to stick around for the roast? If you light my house on fire I'm going to run.
You may be speaking in jest, but in case you are not:

Sorry, they can't jump. The stage that infests the wood is the larvae form(think worm like) that feeds under the bark. They physically could not escape the average campfire.
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You may be speaking in jest, but in case you are not:

Sorry, they can't jump. The stage that infests the wood is the larvae form(think worm like) that feeds under the bark. They physically could not escape the average campfire.
Howes about the banging and throwing around the wood recieves before the fire is even lit? Can the worm like creature's that have gotten knocked off thier home hit the ground and go off in search of a new home?
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In the case of Oak Wilt and Dutch Elm disease the spore can be floated away in the smoke. They spread in different ways. Insects spread them with the spores through contact, they spread when their roots contact each other, and of course with Emerald Ash Borer, the insect does the job.

The borer lives just under the bark and if some bark falls off the log the eggs will fall with it to hatch later.

I have had the state foresters out here trying to develop a plan to fight these diseases and there is no good method. Prevention is the best defense. Prevention means not transporting the disease into the area in the first place.

Right now all of the large Elm trees are gone and all we have are young ones that sprout from old seed in the ground. The get twenty feet tall and then they die from the disease. I lose five to ten Red Oak trees every year. I also lose one or two White Oaks as well. They are not as suseptable.

Burying your head in the sand won't stop this loss of a huge natural resource. Once these trees are infected they cannot be sold for lumber products. Think about it. What kind of woodwork do you have in your house?
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Howes about the banging and throwing around the wood recieves before the fire is even lit? Can the worm like creature's that have gotten knocked off thier home hit the ground and go off in search of a new home?
Anything in this world is possible,but it less likely than hitting the lottery.

The larvae are buried within the wood, under the bark in tunnels that they have created.

I guess they could escape if you removed the bark, but they again would probably die as they are not equipped to bore in from the outside.

Please realize that this is a serious threat to our forests, and is not a conspiracy to make your camping adventure uncomfortable or more expensive. Please, DO NOT move wood that still has bark on it.
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I do not haul any firewood, If I want a fire, go to the store ......pay for it......it gets delivered right to my fire ring. When I bought our Coach I entered into the most expensive and costly time off from work hobby I have ever had(not retired yet and the cost will go up then, new Coach in the future) so for me not only to comply with the laws and the obvious destruction (news and local papers and visual) and the cost of maybe a total of $12.00 max for a nights fire from time to time when looking at the whole picture of this hobby I am not going to use my Newmar for a "wood hauler"
We also carry a propane fire pit with ceramic logs when we don't want the smoke.
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