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Old 10-15-2014, 07:27 AM   #15
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Do school buses have seat belts??

Here they do.
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Old 10-15-2014, 07:45 AM   #16
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Do school buses have seat belts??
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Good point.
If children on a school bus, and people riding public transportation, (subways, commuter trains, etc), are safe when not belted in... so are my passengers.
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Old 10-15-2014, 07:47 AM   #17
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Are your passengers buckled in ?

Most school and commuter buses probably don't get above 25mph for very long, what speed do you cruise at?

As I said above school buses here have seat belts and for that matter so do a lot (most) of the long distance coaches.
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Old 10-15-2014, 08:43 AM   #18
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As a retired mining engineer, designing mining equipment we always had yearly mine safety classes. One year the instructor showed a movie of what happens to the driver of a vehicle who is seated belt in and not the passenger behind them. The driver saved the passenger who was a thrown forward in the crash; but the driver was killed when his neck was broken by said projectile. The passengers behind me are always seated belted regardless of where they are sitting before moving in my case. In fact everybody is whether it is the law or not seat belts do save lives.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:14 AM   #19
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Do school buses have seat belts??
Do you have school bus seating with compartmentalization?
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As a retired mining engineer, designing mining equipment we always had yearly mine safety classes. One year the instructor showed a movie of what happens to the driver of a vehicle who is seated belt in and not the passenger behind them. The driver saved the passenger who was a thrown forward in the crash; but the driver was killed when his neck was broken by said projectile. The passengers behind me are always seated belted regardless of where they are sitting before moving in my case. In fact everybody is whether it is the law or not seat belts do save lives.
Great video!
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:53 AM   #21
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but the driver was killed when his neck was broken by said projectile.
Loose objects flying at you is always a concern of mine. I'm going to install some sort of barrier behind my front seats in the pickup. Something like a pet barrier since I have some cargo in the rear seats all the time. A headache rack will also be looked at.

Also something rolling around on the floor and lodging under your brake pedal should be a concern, happened to me once
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Old 10-15-2014, 06:28 PM   #22
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If you do a pet barrier, make sure to get the screw in type. The pressure mounted ones are still projectiles in a crash.
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Old 10-15-2014, 06:52 PM   #23
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Interesting replies. I must admit my DW has gotten out of her seat on occasion to batten something down that has come loose or making noise. She promptly returns and buckles up when done. I wonder sometimes how well the seat belts work on the sideway facing sofas as the occupants would probably collide into each other in a forward crash. Better than flying thru the air I guess. But lumps on the head may result.
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The concept is great, but the practice is not possible today. If you look at the first video, it's obvious that the left side of the camper released completely from the frame and came forward. Anyone sitting close to the cockpit is dead as the body and cockpit telescope. Seatbelts or none, no difference. The sales video (the second) doesn't give us any info on the crash severity and doesn't look like the body came off the frame rails as the first one did.

In addition, those seat belts and shoulder harnesses are obviously anchored in VERY substantial structure. Seen any of that in an RV? There isn't any in US units. I know nothing about foreign standards. Furthermore, where's the table? Do you take yours down when you run? Where do you store it? Finally, Have you looked at the seat structure under your seats? That structure MUST take very high loads and the typical luan over thin bracing held by staples is nowhere near adequate. This will kill you when it collapses.

Finally, if the side facing seats on the couches or benches have belts, these are dangerous too. The couches are held in place by a very few bolts put into plywood or questionable structure. And the seat belt anchorages are the same. Some are thru bolted thru plywood floors in many cases in slides. Side facing seat belts are NOT acceptable for car seats or boosters, just read the instructions. For adults they cause back and pelvic injuries, if they hold.

The reason for all these problems? There are NO Federal Highway Motor Vehicle Safety Standards for RV's. Yes, the front seats are covered but that's all. Without a standard, no crash testing, no construction standards, and no sign of this changing anytime soon.

Does that mean you shouldn't minimize the time anyone is wandering around loose when you're on the road? Of course not. Just don't think you are getting the protection you'd get in a car, truck or SUV.

The issue of a school bus is a whole different ball game. There are tested, verified, and have reproducible data that show that NO SEAT BELTS in school buses are safer than belts. There are safety standards for all school buses and they meet them, unlike RV's. These buses are built very differently than is obvious from a casual look.

By the way, I'm a retired Safety Engineer and started and taught the child passenger safety program in Delaware for years.
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In the passenger seat of our MH I usually fall asleep too fast to worry about getting unbuckled and roaming around!
School buses in our area not only don't have seat belts but they frequently drive on the interstate!! Public Transit buses too!
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I bought a MH instead of a TT just for the ability of someone getting up to get coffee or make lunch without stopping.
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we really need to see some US made rvs doing crash tests

i can only imagine what flies past in my rig on sudden stops
one dog has slid the length of the main salon

all the while a full large sonic slush stayed put on the counter

wife has done the drop and brace a few times....
she buckles u most of the time
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Well said Pigman.
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