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Old 05-08-2012, 06:14 PM   #85
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Ya know Bob, if you posted that the sky was blue, etc, you would always find someone to disagree, always.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:23 PM   #86
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I don't have DP, but the "Avoiding Fuel taxes" caught my attention.

I personally don't know of any MH having thier fuel tanks dipped by the Highway Patrol, but in Central California you can be be certain they are regularly dipping trucks and diesel PU as well. There is a lot of Red Diesel around this area for ag equipement the HP has wised to check for Red Diesel being run on the roads. It is a huge fine if caught, not sure the IRS or CA FTB ever gets involved but the courts certainly issues fines.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:36 PM   #87
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But wouldn't an LEO need a search warrant to dip the tank? ( and I would never use off-road fuel for other than the legally intended use, even if I had a DP)
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:38 PM   #88
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I don't think they need a warrant for a movable vehicle.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:48 PM   #89
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When I lived in Hawaii I drove a truck for several years. The port entrance is on Sand Island with only one road in or out. On the way out was a scale house that was always open, occasionally the state weight and measures fellas would be there checking fuel tanks for red dye. Large fine and truck was shut down if caught.
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I "think" that if you refuse to allow a tank dip, they would do what they do if you refuse a vehicle search, impound lot until search warrant is issued. I would think it all depends on how hard-nosed the cop wants to be.
If you know you are guilty, maybe forcing him to do all the paperwork will just make him mad-er.


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On one trip through Gila Bend with my 5er, the were dipping. When I pulled up to the cop that was directing diesels to the back side of a Dairy Queen, he said: "Weren't you already through here?" Can anybody guess what I said?
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Ya know Bob, if you posted that the sky was blue, etc, you would always find someone to disagree, always.
AAaaaaa, Not meaning to be contrary BUT..............
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I guess what I was trying to get across was that it is not MY job to police society. Anymore then I feel it is our nation's responsibility to be the world's policeman. I will leave that to the George Zimmermans of the world.
Well... As for the US being the world's policeman.. No comment. (Actually I'm inclined to agree with you)

As to it not being YOUR job to police society. I could not disagree more.

There is an old saying "You are either part of the solution or part of the problem". And another "All that is necessary for Evil to triumph is for people of good will to do nothing"

There simply are not enough police in the world to be everywhere at once.. THUS it is YOUR job to report to the police when you see a crime comitted, IN fact the law requires it.

If you were to walk down the street, and see some jerk beating the crap out of a helpless young lady.. Would you just walk by and say "Somebody else's problem" or would you at the very least take out your cell and 9-1-1?

(I'm not suggesting you put yourself in harm's way but there are those on the forum who would indeed come to the young lady's rescue).

If you were to walk up to your favorite bank branch, and before entering notice the man with the mask and the gun at the counter.. Would you head over to another branch.. Or take out the phoen and 9-1-1?

In this case you have a man who is cheating the government.. The government OF THE PEOPLE, of which you are one, out of quite likely tousands of dollars over the life of his motor home. NO DIFFERENT THAN THE BANK ROBBER IN THE LAST question.

And you just walked away.

True story: One of my co-workers, on his way in to work for a bit of overtime Drove past a bank.. He looked inside, said "OH S!!!!, picked up his cell and 9-1-1. The story ends with "Suspect in custody" by the way.
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Well, the OP is back again wondering why in the heck I even posted this experience in the first place. Let's see, to date, after 8 pages of replies, I've been called too cowardly and/or apathetic, uncaring and practically causing, single handedly, the collapse of the bridge and hiway system. I can understand how threads get hijacked and why but to make me feel like some low life for not getting more involved is really hurtful. I wish there was a way to delete this entire thread, I'd do it.
Bob, since I first began reading this forum a few years ago my thoughts on the opinions of RVers are pretty much the same as my thoughts on the opinions of my former coworkers (truck drivers). That is to say, you could put as many of either group into the same room and they couldn't agree on what color the walls were.

Take what has been said and will be said here with a grain of salt. I don't believe any of it has been directed at you specifically.
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Bob, since I first began reading this forum a few years ago my thoughts on the opinions of RVers are pretty much the same as my thoughts on the opinions of my former coworkers (truck drivers). That is to say, you could put as many of either group into the same room and they couldn't agree on what color the walls were.

Take what has been said and will be said here with a grain of salt. I don't believe any of it has been directed at you specifically.

Bob, I agree totally with the above posting by Craig_R. In addition there are those who are constantly comparing "apples to oranges" in their replies to postings here. Things do get off the original subject, and out of hand at times on this forum, no doubt about that. Don't take it personal, just keep on posting.
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[QUOTE=BigSkyBob;1170754]Well, the OP is back again wondering why in the heck I even posted this experience in the first place. Let's see, to date, after 8 pages of replies, I've been called too cowardly and/or apathetic, uncaring and practically causing, single handedly, the collapse of the bridge and hiway system. I can understand how threads get hijacked and why but to make me feel like some low life for not getting more involved is really hurtful. I wish there was a way to delete this entire thread, I'd do it.[/QUOTE

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I think the original post was a good topic, and personally would have handled it the same way. There are those who may cheat on fuel tax and those that make a mess at the dump station etc. It could become a full time policing job if you let it. Don't let it get to you, there are all kinds out there.
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On one trip through Gila Bend with my 5er, the were dipping. When I pulled up to the cop that was directing diesels to the back side of a Dairy Queen, he said: "Weren't you already through here?" Can anybody guess what I said?
"No sir, I havent. I would have remembered an ugly mug like yours.. "??

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Well, the OP is back again wondering why in the heck I even posted this experience in the first place. Let's see, to date, after 8 pages of replies, I've been called too cowardly and/or apathetic, uncaring and practically causing, single handedly, the collapse of the bridge and hiway system. I can understand how threads get hijacked and why but to make me feel like some low life for not getting more involved is really hurtful. I wish there was a way to delete this entire thread, I'd do it.[/QUOTE

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I'm a disabled Vet... and dont agree you've earned the right to look away..In fact, being a Vet, disabled or retired, means that you have taken up the cause of keeping this country protected and free, from enemies both foriegn and domestic.. That didnt end with retirement..
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