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Old 03-08-2013, 08:03 PM   #29
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I had a Laminectomy/discotomy between L-5 and S-1. My doc did a great job on the disc part. My ongoing issue is the right sciatic nerve. Its not an every minute problem thankfully.
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I had a Laminectomy done on the lower four vertebra, and it helped a lot with my problems. I was starting to drag my left foot and could hardly stand upright. All conventional things from chiropractor through phys. therapy and stretching did not help anymore.

My surgery was done 2 1/2 years ago at he Mayo Clinics in Rochester, MN. I'd could not be done with minimal invasive procedures, because of the large area that needed to be repaired. I now have an 8" long scar on my back, but it does not bother me at all. I worked in medical research all my life (one of the surgical aids that I have a patent on was used during my surgery), and I came to the conclusion that only surgery can help me to get back to a normal life.

I still have some problem with the nerve roots and some kind of chronic sciatica. I am treating this with medication (Celebrex, and Gabapentin, a medication that is normally used against seizures). I feel pretty good now, and can almost do everything I want (just cant overdo it, but with 70, I am not a youngster anymore).
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:07 AM   #31
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Thanks for the encouragement guys.
Looks like your Drs. did well.

Hudsoner, with you holding a patienton one device used in your procedure and your medical background, I guess you really did know what to expect ahead of time.

I think I am buying some time right now. I however know what I am now doing is not the end repair. The success stories are great and are telling me things I was concerned about. Thanks.
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I think I am buying some time right now. I however know what I am now doing is not the end repair. The success stories are great and are telling me things I was concerned about. Thanks.
Yes, you are buying time, I did that for almost five years, but to be honest, comparing the quality of live prior to surgery and after surgery (and recovery), I wish I had the surgery sooner than I did.

The main thing is check around, go to different docs, get different opinions, and try to find out which facility in your area and which surgeon is considered to be the best. Start to work with the doc you selected and get prepared for the surgery (mentally and physically). If you are overweight, loose as much weight as you can (fatty tissue does not heal well). Get physically as strong as possible, strengthen your core muscles as much as you can (get that six pack if you can), work with a weight machine or something like this to get your core muscles build up. Get your leg muscles strong, cause the sooner you walk after surgery the faster the recovery. If you do all of this, you come out of the surgery ready to dance with the stars!
Good luck!

PS: don't forget that all pain medication is either bad for the liver or for the kidneys. I got chronic kidney disease from the pain meds!
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #33
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Just a quick update.

I went and purchased an inversion table in March of this year.
I have found that even at a 4:00 o'clock position that I am getting a lot of relief.

From the first 10 min. session, I could feel relief. I usually use it twice a day.
I have drastically cut back on the pain medication.
Also helping is getting more rest as the DW gets stronger from her open heart surgery, as well as me paying attention to what I due and utilize a back support more.

Now that the weather is getting cooler (Neither of us do real well in hot weather) we are both walking more. That is also helping both of us.

The inversion table may not be for everyone, but it is great for me.

Thanks for all the information sharing.
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Might I suggest you try krill oil. Even DrOz recommended it on his show and for two weeks you couldn't find any left in the drug stores.
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I had a stroke caused by a bad drug, advandia ih dec. 2020. I fell down a flight of stairs and ruined my rotator cuff. I took 300mg. Of krill oil for the pain and my body repaired itself. I kept on taking it and after nine months my blood sugar dropped to were I no longer use insulin injections just metphorin twice a day and now myDr is considering lowering the dosage asy sugar has been in the low sixties several time requiring me to drink Orange juice to raise it. And now my blood pressure is lower down to 142over 80. They cut down my pressure med to once a day. Plus its lowering by cholesterol too. This stuff is great jusst whatch out for the krill oil bomb. When you start taking krill oil it will clean you out at a cellular level. Youll have a bm as blackk as coal with all your body's accumulated toxins including tar from cigarettes and heavy metals from foods you eat even the polluted air you breathe put carb and toxins in your body. The krill oil cleaned me out in one bm. My brother in law made two blavk bm's but he smoked for thirty years. Till lung cancer took my sister, his wife then his older brother.
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Had 2 discectomy's approx. 30yrs ago and 10 years ago. Recommend a Neurosurgeon with lots of personal referrals rather than a orthopedist
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Thanks again for the information.
I will also see what the Krill Oil will do.

Ref surgery, the Orthopedist has already said he will refer me to some with more modern skills, he is in his 60's also. I will be sure to ask for a Neurosurgeon.

Great job on the diabetes jasright.
The DW was just taken off ALL diabetes medicine. We found out about her's the hard way. I took her to the ER 3 years ago, they found she had undiagnosed diabetes and it was over 1,000!

After 3 days in ICU she was back home.
We were advised that she was within hours of leaving us.

Since then she has worked hard on diet and what exercise she can do.
With the heart issues pretty much straightened up, except for a pacemaker replacement in the near future (surgeon pulled loose a wire and it is shorting out)
she is doing better than in the past 10 years.

Modern medicines still resembles the good, the bad and the ugly.
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Get her some krill oil right away. The escamoes in alaska eat krill and have the lowest heart disease rate on the planet and the Japanese also have very low heart disease rates cause they eat lots of fish and krill. By the way fish oil is so healthy because it's high nin omega 3which fish get by eating krill. Haven't you ever wondered why a creature a big a a whale never has heart or circulation problems. It's because krill make up half their diet. Krill look like tiny scrimp and they're so numerous that at times they turn the ocean pink. They the second largest biomass on the planet.
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For my back surgery my very medically conservative primary care doctor recommended a neurologist. He said he was the guy he would use if he had to have back surgery.
For my hip replacement I also used a surgeon suggested by two of my doctors and that operation was a complete success.

Talking to people over the years I am convinced that the skill of the surgeon is very important factor in operation success.
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The success of back surgery depends upon the training, qualifications and experience of the surgeon and his team. Normally neurosurgeons limit themselves to cervical problems and orthopedic to the lower back. Proper diagnosis also helps. I ruptured three cervical and three lumbar sacral vertebrae in a fire and explosion. The diagnosis was made by both specialties. The surgeries were performed by an orthopedic spine specialist, fuzzing 4 lumbar sacral and 4 cervical vertebrae. Since major nerve bundle were affected surgery was a necessity. That was 20 years ago and they both worked. The doctor does the bulk of the professional sport players. Get a good doctor who is a good diagnostician and has tons of experience. Before surgery they will put you through a rigorous PT program to see how you respond.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I have had back pain, in varying degrees since my teens. I have talked with many doctors over the years and have heard many different professional opinions.

Because of all the varying opinions, I am being very cautious as to what I will do.
Up until this point there was not what I would call "clear evidence" of the problem. The Cat-scan makes some things hard to overlook. I still feel there is something they are missing in the left hip area, where I took a hard fall once.

For now I have the pain under control.
The only time I can really remember being totally out of pain was when I was in for gall bladder surgery. The Nurse would come in every 4 hours what a needle full of Morphine. Yes, many hospitals have gone back to Morphine as has the military.
That was 5 years ago. I was happy for a week. I am in no rush unless it gets much worse.

Ref Krill Oil, I did some research and found that there is at least one published medical study on it pertaining to arthritis. They showed positive results.
This is also the same product that is advertised as Omega 3 -"with no fishy after taste". I will be picking up some soon.
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I had surgery the beginning of December after everything else failed. I could no longer stand or walk. I had no other option. From the X-rays, it looks like I have a bird cage inside of me. They are keeping fairly comfortable with pain meds, and I started aqua therapy last week. No lifting, bending, twisting, pushing, or pulling. I had laminectomies, fusion, and something else to fix two fractures. As of now, it's difficult for me to tell you the level of success achieved because of all the restrictions that are still in place, and I wouldn't until I am told that my recovery (which can be a year) is complete.

In the 80s, I had cervical neck surgery. I knew it was a success the moment I opened my eyes. The lower back is a different animal, for sure.

My advice is to find a doctor you trust. I was fortunate. My daughter is in anesthesia, so she knew the doctor she thought was best. I'm in the Atlanta area. Feel free to PM me if you'd like his name. He's very conservative, and does not push surgery. Anyone who has had back pain can empathize with you...it takes you down mentally as well as physically. I hope you find the best alternative for you. Every one is different and has a different problem which makes it difficult to say, "Mine was a success, so yours will be." Good luck to you.
I'm still on pain meds. Surgery probably saved me from a wheel chair, but I have the same pain with meds, now. It's a long boring story, but I was told that surgery does not fix back pain, it fixes leg pain. I never had leg pain, but according to an MRI, a myelogram, and a cat scan, my back was so messed up that surgery was the only option. Be sure to explore all options.
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