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Old 12-08-2015, 12:00 PM   #267
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:06 PM   #268
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:30 PM   #269
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Here are a couple of my favorites

1- Devils Lake SP, WI - Not our favorite.. but pretty cool.. it was fun backing into that site
2- Hy-Land Court RV Park, Door County, WI - Love love love camping in the fall
3- Roche-A-Cri SP, WI - This was a new park for us this year.. absolutely loved it.. we got lucky and landed the best spot in the park (we think)
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:40 PM   #270
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ID:	113830 We had a 2005 40' Monaco Diplomat with a 24' trailer with an extended RV tongue that measured 71' 1-1/2" overall length. According to my research we were illegal in most states that we traveled through, yet we never incurred any trouble about it even going through immigration/agricultural check points. We traveled from FL to MI and then to CA, then back and forth to MI and Ca five times in just less than three years when in 2014 we bought two trailers to keep one in MI and the other in CA hence now we fly back and forth. So, now to my question have you had any trouble with your overall length? In our travels we saw many coaches over 40' (tag axles) with trailers longer than ours?
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Old 12-10-2015, 02:01 PM   #275
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Attachment 113830 We had a 2005 40' Monaco Diplomat with a 24' trailer with an extended RV tongue that measured 71' 1-1/2" overall length. According to my research we were illegal in most states that we traveled through, yet we never incurred any trouble about it even going through immigration/agricultural check points. We traveled from FL to MI and then to CA, then back and forth to MI and Ca five times in just less than three years when in 2014 we bought two trailers to keep one in MI and the other in CA hence now we fly back and forth. So, now to my question have you had any trouble with your overall length? In our travels we saw many coaches over 40' (tag axles) with trailers longer than ours?
^^Nice rig.

Now to get a bit off topic, but in response to your question.

We had the smallest rig in our group when we were racing, duning and sledding @ 72' OAL and traveled most of the western U.S. and into Canada and never incurred any trouble for length. Then again, our rig is kept in safe and tip top condition at all times and we don't drive drawing attention to ourselves either. Also here in Utah around 2007/08~ish when the economy went to crap, they were needing to generate revenue and started to force RV's towing commercial trailers to stop at border weight stations. Upon talking to fellow racers we found out that technically they were considering race trailers with sponsors and company names "commercial" because winnings were considered revenue and therefore in the CCC's eyes that was deemed commercial (trying to tell them winnings didn't come even CLOSE to being profitable for most of us racers wasn't an option). My wife and I decided then that it was time to upgrade/upsize our trailer and opted to sell our old 24' enclosed trailer that had our shop's name and sponsors on it and ordered a larger 26' enclosed trailer and did NOT put any lettering or stickers on it. In fact 10-minutes after taking delivery of it and having it sitting in front of my shop, the heat gun come out and all of Haulmark's stickers were removed with the exception of the required weight and legal stickers.

That said, in all of the talk at the track and dunes, my wife and I have been duning and racing since 1987 when we met, and I have only talked to ONE person who had an issue with being overlength. And he was WAY overlength. Long story so won't go into it.

It is funny because on many of the rv forums all I ever hear about is how overlength I am and a friend of a buddy's wife's nephew's neighbor was pulled over for being overlength. Well this must be a popular person, because obviously it is the same guy that EVERYONE knows. This is a hot topic at most race tracks and in well over 20 years now, 16+ of those being overlength, the count is only one that I personally know of, not second, third or fourth hand or hear say.

I doubt anyone would ever pull you over for length BUT, if you are ever in an accident you can bet your ass that it will come up.

I know all of the "experts" will chime in and correct me, but from my experience most of the nay sayers about towing enclosed trailers don't tow a trailer. So take that for what it is worth.

Sorry, I will get off my high horse now.

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1948boat, zmotorsports (Mike) experiences and opinions mirror mine. We started racing out of the rig below (78' OAL) in 2000. To date I don't have first hand knowledge of anyone being stopped or cited for being overlength. That's not to say it hasn't or won't happen but we have traveled east to west, north to south many times and the only recurring problem is in California if you don't know which scales to avoid.

There have been periods of time over the years where the Highway Patrol in various states tried to enforce CDL license requirements on RV's & trailers and targeted racing events. I do know of a couple of racers that were cited for that violation. Ultimately they were dismissed in court. Ironically, I have a racing friend who is a former Texas DPS Trooper. He was repeatedly stopped by a rookie Trooper near his hometown for not possessing a CDL and driving a combo RV/trailer that weighed in excess of 26,001 pounds. The law in Texas requires a Class A NON CDL for this rig but not a CDL. After a reprimand from his Captain, the rookie got educated.

The other issue occurred a few years back when we were crossing the border from California to Washington for an event. RV's & trailers were backed up at the scales and they were required to purchase trip permits. Fortunately we were in the big rig on that trip and had the necessary permits in place but all of the agencies that issue permits were swamped for several hours.

Hopefully this answers your question and will give you some insight on what to expect out there. As Mike stated keep your rig clean, mechanically sound with all lights, turn signals etc operational, void of decals, and don't drive in a manner that attracts attention from a LEO.
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WOW!! That looks cold right there and a sad state for any RV.

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1948boat, zmotorsports (Mike) experiences and opinions mirror mine. We started racing out of the rig below (78' OAL) in 2000. To date I don't have first hand knowledge of anyone being stopped or cited for being overlength. That's not to say it hasn't or won't happen but we have traveled east to west, north to south many times and the only recurring problem is in California if you don't know which scales to avoid.

There have been periods of time over the years where the Highway Patrol in various states tried to enforce CDL license requirements on RV's & trailers and targeted racing events. I do know of a couple of racers that were cited for that violation. Ultimately they were dismissed in court. Ironically, I have a racing friend who is a former Texas DPS Trooper. He was repeatedly stopped by a rookie Trooper near his hometown for not possessing a CDL and driving a combo RV/trailer that weighed in excess of 26,001 pounds. The law in Texas requires a Class A NON CDL for this rig but not a CDL. After a reprimand from his Captain, the rookie got educated.

The other issue occurred a few years back when we were crossing the border from California to Washington for an event. RV's & trailers were backed up at the scales and they were required to purchase trip permits. Fortunately we were in the big rig on that trip and had the necessary permits in place but all of the agencies that issue permits were swamped for several hours.

Hopefully this answers your question and will give you some insight on what to expect out there. As Mike stated keep your rig clean, mechanically sound with all lights, turn signals etc operational, void of decals, and don't drive in a manner that attracts attention from a LEO.
I have to say Thunderfoot, I never get tired of looking at that picture. I love your rig/setup.

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