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12-13-2013, 06:09 AM
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BEWARE National Multi Listing Service
I am not going to say a lot here that could libel the forum, but be very wary of National Multi Listing Service. Check them out on the BBB. I had very bad experience with them not to mention no results. I just wanted to let you know so you wouldn't be caught like I was.
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12-14-2013, 10:50 AM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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?????? Please expand
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12-14-2013, 10:55 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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OK - I checked them on BBB and they have an A+ rating. Like pumper9x9, I'll have to ask...???
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12-15-2013, 07:40 AM
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I listed my coach with them. There was a 150 day limit. If it wasn't sold in that time frame They would refund my money. The only stipulation was it had to be at or below NADA value. It did not sell in that time and they said $63,000 was above average retail. They took the year and milage but would not add any extra for upgrades and equipment so they refused my refund. It is a 2005 allegro open road with 10,000 miles and all kind of add ons and extra. I don't want to get into a discussion of what its worth but NADA with the extras says $79,000. I have received replies from other people on other forums. That said they had always been shady. I know what my experience is with them. Just trying to keep anyone else from being burnt
ps you're from co. that is where they are from. I think they are in Denver
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12-15-2013, 07:45 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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How much did you lose
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12-15-2013, 07:48 AM
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$400.
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12-15-2013, 07:52 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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We all have "The greatest tool ever invented" ........The internet! Why don't people use it before doing anything when it comes to spending their money? Study up first!
Ripoff Report | National Multi List Service Complaint Review Denver, Colorado: 178861
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12-15-2013, 08:14 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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As a former director of contracting for the USAF, I can only say that your business agreements should be reduced to writing. Both parties should have a defined amount for the value. If you didn't get that in writing, then you have little to argue against. That would preclude differences of opinion after the fact. It becomes a case of he said/she said at this point, otherwise. Did you have an agreed to amount by both parties?
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12-15-2013, 08:20 AM
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When we upgrade, we are sometimes replacing what has failed with something better or newer or we are at least to some degree, tailoring our possession to our specific liking. This can be done to just about anything we own. In an automobile, we can order to our specific liking and in the process add many thousands of dollars to the base cost of a particular brand or model. The same is true with an RV either at the time it is ordered/purchased, or piece meal throughout our ownership. It has been my own experience that upgrades, either when ordered or when added gradually, adds little to no value at the time of sale. I've had car salesmen, (reputable, not shiesty) that I have dealt with for many years tell me point blank BEFORE any money had changed hands, that the eventual trade value of a car is based on standard equipment only, regardless of the number and cost of line items that were originally in the options list on the window sticker. The same holds true on an RV. Again in my own experience, I bought my coach at a great price that was calculated based on the standard equipment only rather than including the $6000.00 in upgrades that the original owners had added during their ownership. Dealers are particularly savvy about this and look at additions or upgrades as making the unit easier to sell at a price still calculated on it base cost only. Private sales may be a different environment where a buyer may take into consideration at least a portion of the value of the upgrades, but he too may think that sometime in the future when he trades up, he too will be in the same position where what he paid more for, will not necessarily give any return consideration when it come time to sell.
Just me 2 cents.
Dan
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12-15-2013, 08:40 AM
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Thanks for all your replies I was a trusting soul and got sucked in by a fast talker. I was just trying to help someone else avoid this trap.
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12-15-2013, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarbear
Thanks for all your replies I was a trusting soul and got sucked in by a fast talker. I was just trying to help someone else avoid this trap.
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Thanks for bringing this out in the open. I just sold an RV and was bombarded by these types. I did my own advertising and resisted multiple attempts by a few of these companies. As always , if it's too good to be true , it's too good to be true.
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12-15-2013, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member
Mid Atlantic Campers
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Just as a side note, the BBB is hardly a credible source for information about a business. ABC news ran a story on it some time ago and found that it was all a sham.
Basically, all it takes to get a good "grade" from them is money. Customer service and satisfaction has little to do with how they "rate" a business.
I know the BBB CEO said they are being reformed. But honestly, when someone betrays your trust, do you ever fully trust them again?
The information about this is out there, a simple internet search will reveal the story.
With that said, thank you for sharing this with us, you just may have saved someone a lot of money.
I guess these types are why people selling on Craigslist always have that they do not need any help selling at the bottom of there listing.
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12-16-2013, 01:21 PM
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It it truly amazing the number of people on the RV forums that ask the questions after the fact that should have been asked before the fact.
Very easy on the Internet to look ar reviews for just about anyone/any company/ any other entity, before agreeing to anything/signing anything/spending anything.
And, as mentioned above, the BBB is useless for most screening.
Joe
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12-16-2013, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
It it truly amazing the number of people on the RV forums that ask the questions after the fact that should have been asked before the fact.
Very easy on the Internet to look ar reviews for just about anyone/any company/ any other entity, before agreeing to anything/signing anything/spending anything.
And, as mentioned above, the BBB is useless for most screening.
Joe
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I didn't realize this would turn into an attack on me and I have no intentions in escalting it. But I don't appreciate you comments.
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