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Old 06-10-2014, 02:29 PM   #29
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No, that's called robbery. And it sounds like one of those internet stories that just has to be true - because it's on the internet.
You may want to read this Forbes article:

Cops Use Traffic Stops To Seize Millions From Drivers Never Charged With A Crime - Forbes

Or this new story:
http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2..._to_drugs.html

Or this one:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...to-splc-client

Or this one:
http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=33766

Or this one:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/ne...iscations-i-80

Google "cash confiscated in traffic stop" to get more. Illegal confiscations happen and people have to go to court and hope they can get their money back.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:46 PM   #30
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Since you have to stop when a LOE "lights you up" and don't really want to, why not make the best of a bad situation and make it memorable by having a little fun?
If you meekly allow the LEO "throw his weight around", he's the only one that has any fun (and you miss all the enjoyment of a traffic stop).
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My grandfather was with the Pomona P.D. and later the L.A.P.D.; this is what he told me about traffic stops when I first learned to drive:

Be polite, answer succinctly and get the h**l out of there as soon as you can. Even if you were wrongly pulled over, don't argue and don't be rude. You will never win against an officer during a traffic stop; that is why we have courts so fight it there.

Also on an amusing note, you can get cited for "illegal hand signal & mis-use of horn" if a cop sees you honk & flip off another driver. You can also get the charges dropped if you take it to court and know how to fight it.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:56 PM   #31
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You may want to read this Forbes article:

Cops Use Traffic Stops To Seize Millions From Drivers Never Charged With A Crime - Forbes

Or this new story:
Judge: Give stripper back $1 million cash seized after traffic stop | NJ.com

Or this one:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...to-splc-client

Or this one:
Judge orders return of cash seized during traffic stop - The Dispatch

Or this one:
Nevada deputy accused of illegal stops, confiscations on I-80 | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Google "cash confiscated in traffic stop" to get more. Illegal confiscations happen and people have to go to court and hope they can get their money back.
And you may wish to re-read the poster's comment:

"One other point is do not carry large sums of cash. That is a whole nuther thread, but just a warning that if a large sum of cash is discovered, you can loose it without cause. You will never see it again. No legal recourse. There are some areas where the legal confiscation of cash is being exploited to its fullest extent."

There is no way a LEO can take cash "without cause". And I have lots of friends who are LEOs, chiefs of police, state troopers, and detectives. Re-read the articles you cite - full of misrepresentation by those stopped, those who waive their rights to their cash, and other sorts of reasons that the cash was taken - once again, if not legally done FOR CAUSE, then it's robbery. And there's always legal recourse.

N'est-ce pas?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:23 PM   #32
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Relax .............they are there to serve and protect. Act normal, is that too hard to do ? Going 5 over in a school zone (saw my sheriff decal, and told me to have a good day)............. escorted out of town, when blowing my train horn at a RR crossing .............. Sarge wanted to know why I didn't have my license on the truck front bumper, quote, I just polished that big texas chrome bumper. She said , I patrol m46 and 57, put it on. I told her that we just put a guy in prison for CSC with a last name like yours, she said, I know, that was my X. we laughed for 15 minutes. Enjoy what life you have left.
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Relax .............they are there to serve and protect. Act normal, is that too hard to do ? Going 5 over in a school zone (saw my sheriff decal, and told me to have a good day)............. escorted out of town, when blowing my train horn at a RR crossing .............. Sarge wanted to know why I didn't have my license on the truck front bumper, quote, I just polished that big texas chrome bumper. She said , I patrol m46 and 57, put it on. I told her that we just put a guy in prison for CSC with a last name like yours, she said, I know, that was my X. we laughed for 15 minutes. Enjoy what life you have left.
You've got the right outlook!
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:59 PM   #34
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I am from Colorado. I have Colorado plates on everything I own. I also have long hair (middle of my back) and a long goatee.

I have never been stopped.


From what I have heard a person couldn't hardly go into a "pot" shop and buy pot and take it to another state for profit.





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I'm glad a sniffer dog did not decide to give a false signal when he checked our tires. Seemed they did spend more time sniffing the tires.
Were those the ones the stray cat pi**ed on?


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Yeah. That damn cat knew he was going to get back at me.
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Constitutional rights are like muscles, they atrophy if you do not use them....
Be polite,
Answer nothing, As an officer who did a lot of investigation, my style was to simply let people talk themselves right into trouble....
People get nervous and talk to much.....
Video recording is a wonderful thing. Federal courts have been clear, you are allowed to record police doing the job....They record you...

Let them have your drivers license, insurance, registration,
otherwise, all you need to say is:
I do not submit to searches,
I do not answer questions,
ask am I being detained??,
May I go??
am I being detained???,
May I go now???
am I being detained??
May I go now??

If they care to continue violating your rights, let them, the meter is running, and the courts will settle it later, and your check will be split with your lawyer
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I'm glad a sniffer dog did not decide to give a false signal when he checked our tires. Seemed they did spend more time sniffing the tires.
Being very familiar with the training and use of scent detection dogs, I can say the chance of a "false" response by a dog is less than you being struck by lighting or hitting the lottery.

The dog probably spent more time on the tires because it is where the most scents are left by other dogs "marking." It is the USA Today newspaper of the dog world.
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It all boils down to who everybody in Colorado voted into office.

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Thanks for the terrific insight. I've been stopped a couple of times in the past fifty years and responded close to your recommendations. Got lucky although nothing to hide. However, I can't imagine what an intrusion it would be if a LEO decided to illegally search my coach! Might miss my happy hour.
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Just don't keep any donuts in your RV and you should be fine!! (yes, I can make that joke, my sister is a cop!!).
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I always try to remember LEO's have a difficult, dangerous job, as we saw in the news this week. I am polite, answer yes or no to their questions, and keep my hands in plain sight at all times. I doubt LEO's profile Colorado plates for drug carriers.
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