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Old 11-29-2010, 09:37 PM   #57
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The bluer the state the crappier the roads. They tend to use highway fuel taxes for mass transit and other boondoggles.

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Old 11-29-2010, 09:44 PM   #59
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The bluer the state the crappier the roads. They tend to use highway fuel taxes for mass transit and other boondoggles.

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I so agree. Gov. Moonbeem was the 1st to raid Cal Trans gas tax money for pet projects.
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Put yer buns behind the wheel of a vehicle and drive through a few states that have the aforementioned voting track, its pretty self-evident.
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:51 AM   #61
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My experience driving the various roads in this country.

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Old 11-30-2010, 11:53 AM   #62
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cvrvrMy point is the state actually receives more money when the price of gas is increased! Therefore, the state is happy to see the price of fuel INCREASE!
Both the feds and states make more $ per gallon than do the oil companies in % of profits/gallon.

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Old 11-30-2010, 01:37 PM   #63
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In August we went from San Diego to Seattle. General observations. Oregon roads in far better condition than CA roads. WA roads in somewhat better condition than CA roads. The most pathetic road was 1. Bridge on I 5 about 20 miles north of Sacradimento. This is a several mile bridge in the delta area. The thumping and bumping was terrible. 2. I 5 Grapevine to Magic Mountain - the right two lanes are so bad they are harmful to your rig. Frequent large pavement breakup. I have to comment that Hwy 99 from Bakersfield up has been bad for years. It is still bad, but I don't think worse than 25 years ago. I 5 on the other hand has deteriorated hugely. Since that is a Federal road I am not sure who is stealing the highway funds. The cleoptos at the federal level or the mega cleptos in Sacradimento.

I think everyone gets additional chances or at least deserves them. Jerry Brown was named Moonbeam way way back in the 70's. The majority of people in CA elected him, he has worked hard as Mayor and AG, so give him a shot this time. I tend to be a conservative voter but am quite optimistic that Brown will do a good job. If he fouls up bad, then moan.

Back to motor homes and roads. Wouldn't it be nice if money collected for roads was actually spent on them. What a concept!
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In August we went from San Diego to Seattle. General observations. Oregon roads in far better condition than CA roads. WA roads in somewhat better condition than CA roads.

I tend to be a conservative voter but am quite optimistic that Brown will do a good job. If he fouls up bad, then moan.

Back to motor homes and roads. Wouldn't it be nice if money collected for roads was actually spent on them. What a concept!
Oregon SHOULD have the best roads in the country. They have the highest diesel road taxes in the country, about 3 times as high as the nearest state. Effectively almost a dollar per gallon (since it's collected by the mile, currently 13.5 cents per mile, not by the gallon, it can be variable).

Brown did great as mayor of Oakland, didn't he? Now one of the least safe and worst-run cities in the state.

You don't mind if we say, "We told you so," about 4 years from now, right?

The federal highway tax fund has been treated as a slush fund by Congress for many years.
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I'd like to know; what states are the good roads in? 35,000 miles to date and haven't found one state I couldn't complain about. Arkansas being the worst.
Overall the roads here in Florida are pretty good. The interstates and the secondary roads that I have travel are pretty smooth and in good repair. I have not been on a lot of the roads in South Florida in quite some time so I can not speak for them. The last time I was on I-75 & I-95 to the Tampa then to the Hollywood area I don't recall any major issues like some of the above mentioned roads in Oklahoma, Louisiana and other places.
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My passenger side windshield cracked bouncing along I 10 in Lousianna. No problem, just a small crack. Got into California and came down the I 15 out of Victorville and that finished it off. Thank goodness I didn' lose any fillings. I can't imagine who thought a one piece winshield was a good idea. It might look good on the showroom floor or in storage but in real life, if it spends much time on the road, it WILL get stone chips and will break.
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Nevada first, by a long shot. Florida a good second.

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Just came back from our trip to Vegas for Thanksgiving and some of my observations were; 1) 101 in both southern ore and northern Ca are pretty bad in a lot of places,but then that's a rough area to maintain good roads with the weather in the winter and the traffic in the summer.Once you hit Ukiah,things seem to get better in places. 2) the 210 is a great road and we got over to 85 and that was wonderful,till we got pulled over and almost got a ticket as we weren't s'posed to be there.He said trucks over 4 1/2 tons and I said I'm not a truck. he said to get off at the first off ramp and figger it out from there.I watched him in my rearview mirror and when he didn't follow me,I kept going to the 101.That was great all the way to Paso Robles and the 46 and 58 to Mojave were good.3) the run up 14 to Ridgefield and then Troana rd to 190 were fun,but someone forgot to tell me about the 9% grade up to Towne Pass and the up to 9% 17 mile down grade to Stovepipe Wells.4) I-15 was hard to tell as there were 200 million cars coming back from Thanksgiving and we avgd 31 mph from Vegas to B'field. 4) heading up the five,the concrete sections were horrendous,the bridge over the river in Stockton,going thru Sacramento and that long bridge after that. What I really hated were some of those routes thru the small towns and the concrete sections under all the overpasses.Then northern Ca,most of Oregon and most of Washington were great.
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Bigdog,

Its not Ridgefield Its Ridgecrest. And when you went thru here you were about 50 ft from my Rig. I drive 99 from Visalia to Bakersfield 58 to Mojave 14 to Inyokern 178 to Ridgecrest every other weekend. 99 is by far the worst of any of these.
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