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NealC · 09-22-2017, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by azpete

there is a campground chain that provides most all the amenities talked about here. its called KOA. in my opinion, its also one of the most costly campsites around. you have to pay for it. nothing is free. i dont normally stay at KOA, simply because they are a destination campground. all i need is water, sewer, and electric.
i dont need hiking trails, swimming pool, exercise room, and other things most people dont use.
i use my phone for a hot spot, because im unwilling to pay for something i already have. no fault of the campground.
my thoughts are, if you want it, be willing to pay for it..

Great example

I'm at the IRV2.com Rally in Branson, MO, we are in a KOA essentially "in town" and it serves about 200 spaces. This is not camping, this is a RV parking lot, a hotel for RV's with a conference center for the events. They advertise wi-fi and advertise it's slow, only used to check email, nothing else. This is a perfect example of a campground that has no reason NOT to supply reasonable (fair and balanced

) wi-fi to this campground.

I'm fortunate as both AT&T and Verizon have great coverage here so I'm all set. But others not paying $240/year for the Mobley or $1080/yr for the 20 GB Verizon MiFi hotspot may not be as happy as I am with their connectivity. A destination like this, just as a hotel would, as this is a RV hotel, has no excuse for not providing a better service.

PJStough · 09-22-2017, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NealC

Great example

"...A destination like this, just as a hotel would, as this is a RV hotel, has no excuse for not providing a better service."

Evidently, you have little or no understanding of the laws of supply and demand. You dont believe that at least some RV parks have looked at this issue, and decided ROI was not worth the it? Do you really believe that all RV park owners are that stupid?

NealC · 09-22-2017, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PJStough

Evidently, you have little or no understanding of the laws of supply and demand. You dont believe that at least some RV parks have looked at this issue, and decided ROI was not worth the it? Do you really believe that all RV park owners are that stupid?

I'm glad to hear so many people here are in the know with what campgrounds have or have not done, and what their costs are or will be. It's absolutely entertaining reading the replies here from the "experts".

Happy Camping

emuller1 · 09-22-2017, 11:22 AM

Sorry, if you require internet service and use it so much go ahead and pay for it. If it is a work requirement then expense the equipment you need or use it as a tax right off, but do not expect people who only occasionally surf the internet pay for your wants.
Streaming movies etc is not a need but a luxury. You want to watch a movie, buy a DVD or go to a theatre or go to the campsite that charges for that service.

bonzocfi · 09-22-2017, 11:22 AM

How about your comment "This is a perfect example of a campground that has no reason NOT to supply reasonable (fair and balanced ) wi-fi to this campground". How do you know that they don't have a reason?

NealC · 09-22-2017, 11:26 AM

My question to all the naysayers here:

Why are you defending the campground not providing better wi-fi (faster and secure)?

You don't know what the costs are? You don't know if it would improve their business. You're just opposing something based on assumptions that you may actually benefit from because being negative is natural for some. I bet if this didn't raise the cost and you could enjoy Internet services for whatever you may use it for, secure and all, you would actually be happy about it. But instead you choose to shoot down a better service that benefits YOU.

Think about it.

PJStough · 09-22-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NealC

I'm glad to hear so many people here are in the know with what campgrounds have or have not done, and what their costs are or will be. It's absolutely entertaining reading the replies here from the "experts".

Happy Camping

I dont claim to be an expert, but I do understand supply and demand, and reason and logic. So your belief is that if RV parks upgraded their wi-fi as you would like they would make more money?

bonzocfi · 09-22-2017, 11:41 AM

I would love it if it didn't raise the costs. But I think, like probably most here, that it would. You don't get it for free. Campground owners are not going to eat the costs.

baraff · 09-22-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NealC

My question to all the naysayers here:

Why are you defending the campground not providing better wi-fi (faster and secure)?

You don't know what the costs are? You don't know if it would improve their business. You're just opposing something based on assumptions that you may actually benefit from because being negative is natural for some. I bet if this didn't raise the cost and you could enjoy Internet services for whatever you may use it for, secure and all, you would actually be happy about it. But instead you choose to shoot down a better service that benefits YOU.

Think about it.

The only way this makes financial sense is in new construction, or a large conglomerate such as KOA or Camping World underwriting it. And better believe those costs will passed on to the consumer. No private campground owner is going to pony up the money when the vast majority of people already have solved their problem by using cellular hotspots.

TLGPE · 09-22-2017, 01:12 PM

With regard to a dead horse.......................

We have been to some CGs that offer WIFI on a cash basis; tell them how many days you want it, pay the price (usually 2 to 5 $ per day) get a code for that time and you're good to go.

Actually I agree with POWDERMAN, fairly soon the subject will be moot; WIFI will be available everywhere in the continental US. Not free, you will have to pay to connect, but it will be there.

JMHO!

Tom

Mike and Cha · 09-22-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NealC

My question to all the naysayers here:

Why are you defending the campground not providing better wi-fi (faster and secure)?

You don't know what the costs are? You don't know if it would improve their business. You're just opposing something based on assumptions that you may actually benefit from because being negative is natural for some. I bet if this didn't raise the cost and you could enjoy Internet services for whatever you may use it for, secure and all, you would actually be happy about it. But instead you choose to shoot down a better service that benefits YOU.

Think about it.

First of all you are assuming a lot and my bet is some of these posters actually know what they are talking about (referring to your previous post re the "experts"). For anyone thinking it is cheap to make available, and as simple as you make it sound, they are not living in reality. And in the long term the cost will be passed down to the customer in the cost charged for the campsite. That's just business and no owner is in business to lose money.

Even if the CG provided Wi-Fi we would still not use it as it is not as secure as what we have purchased on our own, for a relatively low cost. We don't use Wi-Fi provided by any Hotel/CG/Restaurant ect., as you never know who can hack into their systems.

Neal you stated you are relatively new to this lifestyle on previous threads, and have asked a lot of good questions related to RV'ing or operational issues of a MH. A lot of people, me included, have been doing this for 30+ years or more, and love to help others just starting out, or in need of help. Threads like this are going to generate discussion both ways and nobody should get snippy when they don't like the responses or they don't go along with their opinion. People are going to give their opinions either way, and should be respected.

DWRichard · 09-22-2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NealC

My question to all the naysayers here:

Why are you defending the campground not providing better wi-fi (faster and secure)?

You don't know what the costs are? You don't know if it would improve their business. You're just opposing something based on assumptions that you may actually benefit from because being negative is natural for some. I bet if this didn't raise the cost and you could enjoy Internet services for whatever you may use it for, secure and all, you would actually be happy about it. But instead you choose to shoot down a better service that benefits YOU.

Think about it.

If they could afford it, and if it would improve their business, THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW!!!!!

Sheesh!

Tell you what, Neal. Buy a campground, actually operate it for a couple of years, then tell us all how campgrounds should be run to make money a provide customer service.

NealC · 09-22-2017, 04:10 PM

I’ll have to find the thread from when someone here suggested piping cable TV to each spot.

Speaking of which. They should remove the cable TV and put that wasted money towards their WiFi. Since you’re out camping.

UTTransplant · 09-22-2017, 05:05 PM

Neal, you are a minority among RVers/campers. Most of us do not need to use high speed internet. Yeah, it would be nice to stream video, but I can download video at a wifi location when I want one. My phone lets me surf the internet, manage my bills and banking, and read my email. I don't need more. Folks who do work remotely and require high speed internet just aren't that big of a market. I have a firm belief in the capitalism that would prioritize putting in high quality internet if the majority of the market demanded it. At this point it doesn't.