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Old 01-09-2011, 11:17 PM   #43
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...and all the "real time monitoring systems" in the world won't prevent a single flat tire ...which was the REAL point of my post. A TPMS is not a "preventative measure" as claimed above ...if/when a "real time monitoring system" completely and totally works as designed it is simply a warning system that tells you a flat tire is happening/has happened. It may be hard to believe, but even those of us with a TPMS stiil have to stop and fix flat tires when they occur!
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Old 01-10-2011, 06:56 AM   #44
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SPECIFICALLY FOR ''BUCKS2''

I do have a question specifically for Seajay though.
"We have three smoke detectors, one Lp gas detector, two carbon monoxide detectors and two fire extinguishers on board and we have NEVER USED A ONE OF THEM, N E V E R."
Why do you have propane, CO, and smoke detectors if you never use them? Aren't they passive devices that you have working for you 24/7? Don't you have them sniffing the air all the time, keeping you safe? I would say you believe in them and use them all the time.

in clarification to the above statement...... Yes they are working or ready to function all the time we are in the coach. Each is tested about every month to assure it is functioning according to factory instructions. The exception is the ''Fire Extinguishers''. No we do not test them as such except to see that they are in the green on the dial. One thing I do and I advise everyone to do is ''REMOVE, INVERT, and SHAKE'' your fire extinguishers on a regular basis. The powdery substance in a fire extinguisher will have a tendency to ''pack into the bottom of the bottle'' over time and with road vibration it can become a ''brick'' and make the extinguisher useless except for breaking out a window.
Perhaps I was typing too fast for ''bucks2''and my meanings were mis understood. Next time I shall type slower so that I am better understood.

As to carrying a spare vehicle I do just that ..... It is called a Toad and I can use it as necessary to aid in parts retrieval for the coach as necessary or as emergency transportation if needed.

One more and then I will yield the soap box..
Bucks2 my friend, I want you to go to Canyon Du Chelly (spelling) in Texas as I remember and call road service and tell them you need a spare tire brought out to you.
One. NO CELL SERVICE AT ALL .....
Two. Probably the nearest thing to ''road service'' is over a hundred miles in any direction except ''up'' and God dont do ''flats''...
Three. Flag down another coach and hope to God they can help you because you are miles and miles from nothing. Big Bend down in Texas, Death Valley,Calif. and Monument Valley near 4 corners and lots of Utah are the same way.

If you need help on the road just hang out a white ''T'' shirt and if I see you, I will be pleased to stop and offer assistance..... NO CHARGE...

I yield the soap box ........

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What no one has even considered in this thread is when you do have a flat on the rear set, you have just overstressed the other tire and that needs to be replaced as well.

I would much rather "limp" to a service center by refilling the tire as indicated by the TPMS than carry a spare and still have to replace the second tire. Not to mention the damage a totally flat tire can do to a coach before you realize you have a problem.

We fought for years in the airline industry to get monitors of each tire and now that has become "standard issue" on new jets.
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What no one has even considered in this thread is when you do have a flat on the rear set, you have just overstressed the other tire and that needs to be replaced as well.

I would much rather "limp" to a service center by refilling the tire as indicated by the TPMS than carry a spare and still have to replace the second tire. Not to mention the damage a totally flat tire can do to a coach before you realize you have a problem.

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That's actually an excellent point and an example of where a TPMS CAN actually prevent a flat by telling you you're losing pressure in a dual. Without it we all know what often happens is you keep driving on the remaining single that is now bearing all the weight and it either blows or needs to be replaced. Someone also posed a question I had earlier about carrying a spare... does the spare get replaced at the same time the other tires are or do folks really just use them for an emergency to limp somewhere to replace or repair the tire?

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Old 01-10-2011, 11:23 AM   #47
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Opinions vary on the spare. If covered it won't suffer the same exposure the others will so theoretically it's fine for much longer than the others.

But just being outside still damages them. That said in 2008 one of my flats was on the TT and I used the six year old spare for 300 miles with no issues. It's still on there but will probably get replaced this spring. The others were replaced in 2009 due to age cracks.
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I think this is what you're looking for Spare Tire Carrier

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I don't see a co/mfg name on Warpath's thread. Do you know who made the tire holder.
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:49 AM   #49
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We don't carry a spare tire because there is no where to put it...even underneath is out according to the dealer. The strange thing is that our coach has no under-bed storage, but the shorter model of our coach does have enough room for a spare under the bed. Maybe it's because our coach has TWO gray tanks, one black, one fresh water tank and the fuel tank. That takes up a lot of space! I have posted, on all different forums, and titled the post with our coach year and model and no one has come up with an answer except for the roof, so we will just have to make due. I refuse to carry a large tire on the roof! I also wrote Winnebago and was told that there is no place for a spare on our model. If I had a model with under-bed storage I would at least carry an unmounted spare. We will just have to deal with a flat when it happens. I am not going to stay up all night worrying about what could go wrong with the coach because that would take the fun out of having an RV. Happy travels, Joe
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I'd mount the spare under the chassis and in the center rails, to the rear of the fuel tank and If not possible then in front of tank. You would have to construct your own carrier and crawl under to release spare. There are very few newer class A's that have the room in lower compartments to house any spare.
It's kind of impractical and expensive to buy a spare rim and tire and construct the carrier so I'll say; the older you are, the bigger the credit card and better roadside service you will need.

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A couple months ago I switched from Good Sam Road Side Service to CoachNet because of researching the forums as to which is better according to coach owners. I did have an occasion to use Good Sam on a former coach. When the man got there he did a great job, but I asked him which emergency service is best because he works for all of them. He said go with CoachNet, so We did. That's all I know. Thanks. Happy travels, Joe
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Bucks2 my friend, I want you to go to Canyon Du Chelly (spelling) in Texas as I remember and call road service and tell them you need a spare tire brought out to you.
One. NO CELL SERVICE AT ALL .....
Two. Probably the nearest thing to ''road service'' is over a hundred miles in any direction except ''up'' and God dont do ''flats''...
Three. Flag down another coach and hope to God they can help you because you are miles and miles from nothing. Big Bend down in Texas, Death Valley,Calif. and Monument Valley near 4 corners and lots of Utah are the same way.

Amen to this----- and
I have a toad and carry a spare tire.
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I don't see a co/mfg name on Warpath's thread. Do you know who made the tire holder.

Sorry I don't. I just found the thread you were looking for but didn't read it. You might try sending Warpath a PM. I think he's still active here.

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Some have mentioned they carry a spare because they would not want to pay the inflated price of a replacement tire at the side of the road. One thing to consider is that unless you blow a tire on the same day that you put new rubber on your rig, you will be replacing that tire with an older tire. I prefer to put a newer tire on and in the long run it will be cheaper then replacing the spare every 5 to 7 years.
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I don't see a co/mfg name on Warpath's thread. Do you know who made the tire holder.
I do believe that Warpath owns RV Upgrades, one of IRV2's sponsor. I could be wrong
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Old booger from hick town love those that don't carry a spare. I'll bet his eyes glaze over every time he has to deliver a tire that he paid $150 for and will charge $500 for.He will most likley want money up front; then you can set and wait and HOPE he returns.
give him your credit card number and wait till your next statement to see if he refirmished his house. SWEET.
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