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Old 09-30-2011, 08:46 AM   #15
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Well was the 40' Safari over the weight limit? My 40' Safari Continental says 22,500 unloaded so I guess I'm ok?
Most states go by GCWR of the motorhome (26,001 lbs and above is the common break point above which an upgraded license is required) and differentiate between a Class A and B based on the weight of the towed load (if any). Over 10K towed load requires a Class A while under 10K can get by with a Class B. Again, that's for most states, but check your own home state as it may differ.

Therefore, your unloaded weight really wouldn't matter.

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Old 09-30-2011, 08:53 AM   #16
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Surely it would be based on the GVWR not the combined rating.

Whatever the rules are, get some training on the airbrake system. It only needs a couple of hours, but they're different enough from regular hydraulics that you can get into trouble if you don't understand the differences.

I was surprised, when I got my CDL to drive transit, how much airbrake stuff there was to learn.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:08 AM   #17
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Surely it would be based on the GVWR not the combined rating.
Well, actually, in Texas, it's both GCWR and GVWR. I guess I was thinking more of 521.081 (2) since that's what I would fall under. At any rate, see below.

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SUBCHAPTER D. CLASSIFICATION OF DRIVER'S LICENSES

Sec. 521.081. CLASS A LICENSE. A Class A driver's license authorizes the holder of the license to operate:
(1) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more; or
(2) a combination of vehicles that has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of any vehicle or vehicles in tow is more than 10,000 pounds.


Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.




Sec. 521.082. CLASS B LICENSE. (a) A Class B driver's license authorizes the holder of the license to operate:
(1) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating that is more than 26,000 pounds;
(2) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,000 pounds or more towing:
(A) a vehicle, other than a farm trailer, with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 10,000 pounds; or
(B) a farm trailer with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds; and
(3) a bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more.
(b) For the purposes of Subsection (a)(3), seating capacity is computed in accordance with Section 502.162, except that the operator's seat is included in the computation.


Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
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I checked into this issue a couple years ago when considering purchasing a toy hauler that weighed over the 10,000 pounds from a northern Nevada dealer. At that time the dealer provided the name of a long weekend type school that working with DMV provided air brake endorsements, the over 10,000 pound towing endorsement, and non comm CDL's. You might ask some dealers around your area for the name of the folks that teach this and it might be the easy way to get the non comm CDL. From what I understand the part of the test that catches some unprepared is the pre trip inspections not the written nor driving parts. You need to know the torque specs for the lug nuts for example.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:27 PM   #19
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Aw! The license issue again.

I personally think that the biggest mistake is downloading a driving manual and then searching on CDL. It will lead you astray every time. Seach on "Class of license," and don't just stop on the first "hit." I believe that Nevada is similar to TX, and in Texas, as Rusty pointed out, it is section 521 that applies to RV's driven for personal pleasure. If you are transporting commercially you need to comply to section 522. Again, the biggest mistake is searching for CDL which takes you to section 522 in the Texas manual, whcih is CDL, and which states a CDl license is not necessary to operate an RV. It should really point you back to section 521 for Class A, B, C. And, if you look in section 522 you can have a Class C CDL.
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I'd just move.
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