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Old 07-10-2016, 07:33 PM   #15
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The 5 year shelf life of oil, is in a sealed container, not a crankcase subjected to combustion gas's, fuel dilution and condensation due to atmospheric changes.
Exactly right. What in the world does "shelf life" have to do with it?
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:43 PM   #16
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It was 100s of 1000s years old before they ever put in the can or jug.

But I still rotate it!
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:54 PM   #17
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Im with the op. 10, 000 miles and 2 years sounds reasonable.
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I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I have been doing so since I got my first car back in the 70ties I also rotate my tires every 6,000 miles. Call it irresponsible but my car has 205,000 miles on it trouble free and the tires have 100,000 miles on them. I also take the used oil to a station that burns the used oil to heat his station. Responsible.
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Big Oil says motor oil shelf life is 5 years--google shelf life for motor oil and you'll find that Big Oil says that motor oil shelf life is at least 5 years. Caterpillar says 15,000 miles is the factory recommended distance between oil changes on my C-10 diesel engine. To change 34 quarts of oil annually just because 12 months have gone by, irrespecutful of miles accumulated, is wasteful and frankly, irresponsible.
Your opening comments suggests that you're believing the oil producers and not believing the performance of your oil. It's going to be difficult to answer your question or render an answer that will make sense to you given the expense of a diesel engine vs the expense of 34 quarts of oil. The only acceptable solution for you therefore is to have your oil tested annually. If it passes keep it, otherwise an investment in 34 new quarts of oil (plus filters), annually, is what your proactive diesel engine peers will normally pursue during the course of their ownership.
Although I am not an RDP owner, I am a graduate of Camp Freightliner and the curriculum taught there by Mike Cody is to perform annual oil and filter changes. I like Mike.

I would like to offer that a low mileage diesel engine on an annual basis is not an ideal performance environment for that engine. From what I have been taught, diesels need to be run long and hard in order to have a engine that has oil with good longevity characteristics. Short or infrequent runs on a diesel in not a good utilization of that type of equipment or any type of engine for that matter but in the case of a massive heavy duty diesel engine it definitely needs to be run like you stole it.

The operating environment of the engine therefore dictates the frequency of service.
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I am in total agreement with DriVer. I am also a mechanic with 40 years experience on all types of vehicles, from autos to aircraft. Change the oil every 12 months or have an analysis done. Or if you have driven the specified miles change it then. Cummins recommends 20K or 12 months on my diesel which ever comes first.
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It all depends on how the RV is driven. If 5000 miles then set all winter,change the oil before putting it to bed for the winter. If 500 every month go 2 years, for me I never reached then oil change interval before a several month setting period.

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I recall that oil begins to deteriorate after it is exposed to the atmosphere. Due to this and the contaminates created by the engine, 12 months is the recommended time frame if mileage does not apply. Since I can't make it to the mileage on our Motorhome or two of our fun cars, I stick to 12 months.
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I don't believe I would characterize excessive oil changes as irresponsible, but I personally consider it a waste of time and money.

I have a couple vehicles that may get driven 500 miles in a year. The oil gets changed every few years, mainly because I get bored and have run out of things to do on that particular weekend.

I generally stick to a 5,000 oil change on all my vehicles. 5k is a good number to remember and is easy to see on the odometer.
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Big Oil says motor oil shelf life is 5 years--google shelf life for motor oil and you'll find that Big Oil says that motor oil shelf life is at least 5 years. Given that Big Oil is saying this you know its probably much longer than that given their lack of credibility to begin with. So, I think its safe to say that you could go significantly longer than one year on low mileage oil changes. Caterpillar says 15,000 miles is the factory recommended distance between oil changes on my C-10 diesel engine. Thus I change its oil every two years or 10,000 miles which ever comes first. To change 34 quarts of oil annually just because 12 months have gone by, irrespecutful of miles accumulated, is wasteful and frankly, irresponsible.
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On my coach, (with the 250 HP 3126 Cat engine), I have always changed the oil and the oil filter every 8,000 to 10,000 miles...(never by date).
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I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I have been doing so since I got my first car back in the 70ties I also rotate my tires every 6,000 miles. Call it irresponsible but my car has 205,000 miles on it trouble free and the tires have 100,000 miles on them. I also take the used oil to a station that burns the used oil to heat his station. Responsible.
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That is certainly not irresponsible but it most certainly is overkill...(aka: a waste of time and money).

But it's your time and your money...waste it however you want to.

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My ISB Cummins says every 15K miles or every 12 months.
Over the last 14 years I have changed the 17 qt. every 2 years with always less then 10K miles on it.

I am betting that it will outlast me before it ever needs a overhaul.

My generator is used less then 30 hours a year. So I have changed it every 3 years.
ISB W/S filter every 2 years now and getting some crap in it from using the now 20% Bio at most stations.
Engine final fuel filter every 3 years.
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That is certainly not irresponsible but it most certainly is overkill...(aka: a waste of time and money).

But it's your time and your money...waste it however you want to.

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Yeah, some of the new vehicles have oil change intervals out to 15,000 miles or 1 year so a 3000 mile oil change is a waste of money.
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My DD says change it at 35k regardless of time. I'm doing annual testing.
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