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01-19-2016, 04:09 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Check your tire patch kit yearly
I just rotated the tires on my truck, and found a staple in one of the tires.
When I got out the tire plug kit the rubber cement had dried up because I had opened the tube a couple of years ago.
And when I got out the plug, it felt kind of dry.
I had another new tube of rubber cement, but used the dried plug.
The pressure stayed up the first day, but now it is losing about 2 lbs per day.
I had figured that the rubber cement would seal it, but that was not the case.
So tonight, I need to pull and replace the plug.
So if you keep a tire plug kit in your coach, you should check it as part of your yearly maint. And always replace the tube of glue once it is opened the first time.
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01-19-2016, 04:55 PM
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I would only us a tire plug as a temporary thing.
At my first chance I would have the tire broken down and patched on the inside.
A bad plug could let air pressure creep thru the inner airtight linner, into the ply's and cords of the tire.
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01-19-2016, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
I would only us a tire plug as a temporary thing.
At my first chance I would have the tire broken down and patched on the inside.
A bad plug could let air pressure creep thru the inner airtight linner, into the ply's and cords of the tire.
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Agreed....but my point is for those folks who keep a plug kit in their coach for emergencies. It would be unfortunate to attempt to repair a tire on the side of the road so you could get to a tire store, and find that your glue is bad, or you plugs are dried up. I would prefer to take 15 minutes to plug a tire and drive it to be repaired rather than wait for a road service truck.
Regards,
Dan
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Blue Ox Aventa tow bar, SMI Air Force One -Cave Creek, AZ.
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01-19-2016, 05:15 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Good point. I have not checked my kit for some time. Will put to do so on my todo list. Thanks.
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Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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01-20-2016, 05:23 AM
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for the price.. I always replace kit every year.. and I also purchase a spare tube of glue... Insurance...
1 kit for truck/trailer.. second kit is on motorcycle...
and mini-air compressors... same 1 and 1....
but right now.. all 3 are together.. 7 weeks and counting.
FYI.. glue does this and has for 30 plus years. once OPENED. goes bad quick
but still a good reminder.
plug till service is available.
in 45 years, never had a flat next to a service station.
but have 30 miles from any service.
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01-20-2016, 06:18 AM
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01-21-2016, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
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Me too, I'm not patching an RV tire for nobody.
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01-22-2016, 07:58 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I see you plugged the tire, Plugs damage the tire, They are good for patching it long enough to get to the tire store for a new tire but if you want to REPAIR a punctured tire you use a proper internal PATCH, not one that pokes through the tread like the nail did, but one that is flat, and goes INSIDE the tire. Like you use on a bicycle inner tube, in fact the very same patch you'd use on a bycicle inner tube.
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01-22-2016, 09:43 AM
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Yikes, I had a plug put into my toad's Cooper tire at the shop where I purchased them. They "assured" me that the repair was solid for the remaining life of the tire. Been running it this way for over a year now.
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01-22-2016, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm
I see you plugged the tire, Plugs damage the tire, They are good for patching it long enough to get to the tire store for a new tire but if you want to REPAIR a punctured tire you use a proper internal PATCH, not one that pokes through the tread like the nail did, but one that is flat, and goes INSIDE the tire. Like you use on a bicycle inner tube, in fact the very same patch you'd use on a bycicle inner tube.
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This is a hotly debated topic. And I can easily see taking a position on both sides. It makes sense to say a tire is damaged after a nail or screw goes through it. But I don't understand how a internal patch makes the tire any stronger.
I think we are really just talking about what the best way is to get a seal.
It seems to me that there is a slightly better seal with a patch that lays over the hole versus a plug which becomes a mushroom inside the tire. My opinion is that they are both adequate.
I had left a car tire to be repaired at "American Tire Store". I had assumed it was going to be patched, but they plugged it. Still no problems after 10K miles.
I am suspect we will be hearing from too many people who have driven lots of miles on plugged tires to say it is a bad method. I think I have plugged around 10 tires in my lifetime, and continued to drive them till the tread was worn. Never had any problem.
In trying to think back, I can't recall anyone saying their plug repair failed, only claims of what things could happen. But I am sure there are some cases of both patches and plugs failing.
We all must do what makes us comfortable.
Regards,
Dan
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01-22-2016, 10:47 AM
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I Googled tire plugging and it is recommended that a patch/plug be used. It is the best of both worlds.
It is installed from inside with glue and pulled out the hole, so it seals the air in and stops dirt and water from entering the inner cords from the outside.
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01-22-2016, 10:55 AM
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01-22-2016, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
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Thanks twinboat. My tire was unmounted and the plug was then installed some way..
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01-23-2016, 06:20 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Another problem with plugs is that when reaming out the hole, they can damage the steel cords in the tire which will eventually cause big problems.
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