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Old 11-06-2012, 09:48 AM   #43
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Hello I myself would not trust Chinese made tires on my Motor Home Period.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #44
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GLADIATOR not Guardian

I found the specs on the GLADIATOR tires. I messed up on my prior posts. They are Gladiator not Guardian tires.....geesh!

Anyway, they are the same specs as the GY and Michelins in the same size, but the tire is not the same size as the specs. Within 2" difference.


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Old 11-06-2012, 11:07 AM   #46
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I had a set of Kuhmo Chinese tires on my Saturn Vue. They lasted about 45K miles (which is the same as the Bridgestone Duellers that came with the vehicle). However, within the last 5K miles they developed bumps on them that made it feel like you were on a road under construction even though the road was smooth. So, based on that experience, I would not buy this brand again.

As far as my RV goes, I have a hodge podge of different brands that came with the rig that I bought from Cruise America. So when I replace the rears next spring, I will probably go with the best deal. I would not rule out Chinese or used tires. It depends how the money is next year.
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More like $100-$200 a tire... If i really wanted, I can buy some Samsons at close to $400 per tire less than Michelins...


Oh, and those Goodyears have had a bad rep lately too.. ever hear of 'rivering'?
That's incredible pricing on the Samsons Midniteoyl.

I see Camping World is now selling them too. I priced them out, but they are Load Range G or H not Load Range F that I need at 240 or 250 per tire. With the FMCA Discount, I got the Michelins for about 350 per tire. 100 each is a lot of money, but I'm putting the Michelins on despite the issues they have with cracking. I'm gonna keep them covered, and get the coach out and exercise them every 60 days at least.

I really believe there are too many unique cases on tires to make an overall judgement about any of them. I'm just gonna go with what I know for now, which is I'm probably better off with them than without.
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This could be true. The company I retired from built a plant in Thailand; not to export from, but to build products for their market. The country had very high import duties so it was less expensive to import raw materials than finished products.

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My local Michelin dealer told me that Michelin tires made in China are only for the Chinese market. Could be tire salesman BS or could be true - just sayin'....
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Different load ranges can have different diameters... But shouldnt be more than a few tenths. Sure the front tires are the same size?

And yes, even with the FMCA discount, I can get the Sampsons for around $200 less in the 19.5" size..
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Different load ranges can have different diameters... But shouldnt be more than a few tenths. Sure the front tires are the same size?

And yes, even with the FMCA discount, I can get the Sampsons for around $200 less in the 19.5" size..
I agree, and double checked them. The Gladiators on front are 245 70 R19.5 LR H. The Gladiator's specs are the same dimensions as the Goodyear or the Michelin Specs, but the actual tires measure about 1.5 to 2" bigger in diameter.

So you can get the Sampsons for 150 each? HOLY SMOKE! Are they LR-F's? I need to come visit you. Wish I could and had the time.

Sadly for me, my last two money grubbing Michelin tires are in tomorrow and Rick's will install all 6 new tires on Friday. I sure hope to be able to detect a better ride and better driveability by spending this outrageous amont of money.....
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Ya.. last I looked, $149 ea on sale... Any wonder why peeps take a chance?

Wierd that the guardians are actually bigger. Need to look that up vs the spec.

Question: What are the static heights? Measure from ground to top of tire as it sits..
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I can do that when I take it to get the new tires put on, and I'll be able to have them measure the actual differences when the tires are removed too.

I can guarantee you if I could have got Sampsons around here for that I would have jumped on it. You know if CW is selling them they aren't to much to be worried about. I am sure the Gladiators would be just fine for a few more years, but not gonna take the chance when they are that much out of spec.

Actually, I put 4,000 miles on them and didn't know any difference the past 18 months, so I don't know what the heck I'm replacing them for after all now....geesh!
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Right now, the 5 rib GL83 14ply are $208 ea, delivered anywhere in the lower 48.

Samson 225/70R19.5,14 ply 225/70/19.5 A/P GL83 truck tires 22570195



The Double Coins, 12ply, are $230 ea if bought as 4 drive and 2 steer. Delivered.

6 tires Double Coin 225/70r19.5 4-drives and 2-steer 12 PLY,22570195



These are delivered prices.
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Right now, the 5 rib GL83 14ply are $208 ea, delivered anywhere in the lower 48.

Samson 225/70R19.5,14 ply 225/70/19.5 A/P GL83 truck tires 22570195



The Double Coins, 12ply, are $230 ea if bought as 4 drive and 2 steer. Delivered.

6 tires Double Coin 225/70r19.5 4-drives and 2-steer 12 PLY,22570195



These are delivered prices.
Jim, I searched for 245 70 r 19.5 12 ply and couldn't find any, but I did find 245 70 r 19.5 16 ply which is what is on the front in the Gladiator line....

Did you find any 245 70 r19.5 LR-F 12 plies on this site?
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You know, now that you mention it, I dont think I have seen a Chinese tire in the 245 and up size that was 12 ply. they are all 14 or 16 ply. i have only been looking for the 225/70's or 8r19.5's which are what the coach really takes.

And oh ya.. these guys are a tire place in Chicago.
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