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I own a garbage company and had an interesting call today. I got a call from a company (I can't remember the name but it made it sound like a truck fleet business) the gentlemen, Tom, began asking me about my fleet of trucks. I never give out very much information to strangers so I kept it very vauge. He then asked me if I wanted to get my fuel costs down. Well of course I would. He said he had a diesel fuel additive that could do just that and went into a sales pitch. I asked if he was a salesman for this product and he was. I listened for awhile on how it would help burn more of the diesel and prevent damage to the fuel delivery system caused by USLD.
Being skeptical I asked him, "if I had a major engine failure how could I prove it was mechanical and not the fault of the additive?". He said that his product was the only product approved by the government for use in older, pre 2007, engines. So, would his company help me prove mechanical failure? He hung up on me! I guess not.
The product was called Diesel Boost 3 and sell for $129.00 per gallon and would treat over 2000 gallons of fuel.
Can anybody say Snake Oil?
Has a side note I got a fuel drop today and asked the driver if he had heard of it. No. But he told me they add centane to the fuel and an anti gel during the winter months. Good enough for me.
Just wanted everyone to know the snake charmers are out there.
Paul
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03-07-2007, 05:21 PM
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I own a garbage company and had an interesting call today. I got a call from a company (I can't remember the name but it made it sound like a truck fleet business) the gentlemen, Tom, began asking me about my fleet of trucks. I never give out very much information to strangers so I kept it very vauge. He then asked me if I wanted to get my fuel costs down. Well of course I would. He said he had a diesel fuel additive that could do just that and went into a sales pitch. I asked if he was a salesman for this product and he was. I listened for awhile on how it would help burn more of the diesel and prevent damage to the fuel delivery system caused by USLD.
Being skeptical I asked him, "if I had a major engine failure how could I prove it was mechanical and not the fault of the additive?". He said that his product was the only product approved by the government for use in older, pre 2007, engines. So, would his company help me prove mechanical failure? He hung up on me! I guess not.
The product was called Diesel Boost 3 and sell for $129.00 per gallon and would treat over 2000 gallons of fuel.
Can anybody say Snake Oil?
Has a side note I got a fuel drop today and asked the driver if he had heard of it. No. But he told me they add centane to the fuel and an anti gel during the winter months. Good enough for me.
Just wanted everyone to know the snake charmers are out there.
Paul
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03-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Thumbs up Paul  Could it be that sales is the second oldest profession??
Since you have a fleet, what are your thoughts on Bio-diesel? One of our local distributors has just added B20 diesel. Since I'm new to this diesel game I am interested in Bio comments. Happy Trails!! from a southern Oregano!
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03-07-2007, 05:53 PM
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Greetings from the Coast hoverbug,
I've attended several meetings and forums on Bio-diesel and found several things that prevent me from switching.
1. Price. The price for bio is higher than road diesel and there is no re copement of that cost except to raise my service rates and I won't do that.
2. Quantity. There is not enough of the fuel to go around, especially on the Coast. I don't want to run bio one month and then have to switch back to road diesel. That would mean another bulk tank and possible mechanical problems.
3. Faith. I don't think enough real world fleet testing has been done to say whether or not mechanical breakdowns are/are not happening. It's just too early to tell.
Testing on open freeways or in city only driving are one thing but for me it's rural roads and lots of hills. My garbage trucks take a lot of punishment but have alway held together and served us well.
Just my thoughts
Paul
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03-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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Thanks Paul. You reinforce my thinking that it still a babe in the woods technology. The biggest issue I have is quality control. When the Army starts putting JP-5 Bio in Hueys&Black Hawks I might reconsider
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03-07-2007, 06:05 PM
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Right-on!
Paul
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