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Old 04-07-2013, 10:50 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by RoyM View Post
Paid $1.41/liter here this morning, no evidence of prices dropping.
Roy its $1.26.9 at Hope right now.

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Old 04-08-2013, 09:50 AM   #30
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And my final 2 cents on the oil companies (and even a few others such as Home Depot f'rinstance...) -- if you're making 3 billion dollars a month in profit, you're charging too much for your product.
Really? Perhaps lots of folks would think that people with RVs have far two much money. Where does that kind of "thinking" take us? Just sayin' . . . .


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Old 04-08-2013, 10:14 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by traveler of california

Really? Perhaps lots of folks would think that people with RVs have far two much money. Where does that kind of "thinking" take us? Just sayin' . . . .

And anyone who thinks we have too much money needs to read the thread on the last thing we bought or repaired! May start out looking that way but it don't last long. Gonna need to put a tourniquet on my wallet here soon as the bandaid isn't holding. Lol. Fuel is the least of my concerns. In fact, I love filling up. Means I'm moving!!
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two much money

Meant "too much money". Sorry, suffered a little brain lapse.

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Old 04-08-2013, 11:31 AM   #33
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I think Diesel is about 1.20/liter here. Seems like every time there is a rise in fuel prices, there is a new RV Dealer opening up. What's that about?
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Originally Posted by RustyJC View Post
Refined fuel prices reflect market movements where these fuels are traded - the New York Merchantile Exchange is one of America's largest energy commodity markets. Using your rationale, fuel prices would never drop. The fact is, fuel prices dropped dramatically during the economic crisis of 2008 as fuel demand fell. HERE is a website where one can follow market prices for oil and refined products.

De facto devaluation of the U.S. dollar affects all imports, unless the seller is willing to absorb the currency fluctuation losses. It certainly impacts the worldwide oil market that historically has traded in U.S. dollars.

Let's tell the whole story. Looking just at one market (i.e., ignoring India and China), we export diesel fuel to the European Union countries because 50% or more of the European vehicles sold recently are diesel-fueled. The EU promotes the use of diesel because the vehicles are more economical and, therefore, more greenhouse gas friendly (lower carbon emissions). The EU members generally tax diesel at a lower rate than gasoline, which drives demand for diesel in Europe.

Conversely, the U.S. EPA concentrates on particulates and NOx precursors, and is therefore anti-diesel in its regulations. Diesel is also taxed at a higher rate than gasoline in the U.S. This drives gasoline demand in the U.S. and decreases the relative demand for diesel.

Given the refining splits of a barrel of oil, U.S. refiners have an overabundance of diesel and a shortage of gasoline for the U.S. market. Therefore, they ship diesel to the EU and ship gasoline from the EU refiners back to the U.S.

Petroleum products are part of a global marketplace. They will flow to regions of higher demand. That's a fact of life.

If you want to see the reason for high prices GOOGLE Boone Pickens free market.
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...The best plan of action is to live within your means and save and invest for the future. ...
An often overlooked or ignored axiom.

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