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Old 05-13-2006, 04:52 PM   #1
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Is this going on anywhere else? Gas prices are on their way down, $0.10 to $0.15 down from a week ago here, but diesel prices have held steady. Today, I noticed at the Flying J diesel has gone UP $.04 from $2.90 to $2.94 in the past couple of days. Gas down, diesel up, that makes no sense at all. I am really hating having a diesel anymore.
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Is this going on anywhere else? Gas prices are on their way down, $0.10 to $0.15 down from a week ago here, but diesel prices have held steady. Today, I noticed at the Flying J diesel has gone UP $.04 from $2.90 to $2.94 in the past couple of days. Gas down, diesel up, that makes no sense at all. I am really hating having a diesel anymore.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:23 PM   #3
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Supply and Demand

When there are more buyers than sellers the price goes up. When there are more sellers than buyers the price goes down. That is how the market works.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:32 PM   #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">When there are more buyers than sellers the price goes up. When there are more sellers than buyers the price goes dow </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Petro, I wish that I believed this was true. I completely agree than in a free market place, supply and demand drive prices and availability. I personally don't think that half of our market places (not just oil) in this country are "free". As Enron did to California with electrical energy prices, creating an artifical crisis, so I believe that other market segments are doing to all of us. That is just my opinion.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">diesel has gone UP $.04 from $2.90 to $2.94 in the past couple of days. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll take that. Diesel around Portland Oregon is $3.09 to $3.15 today.
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I understand supply and demand. But one of the reasons gas prices have dropped is because supply, both oil and gasoline are higher than expected according to the news. So am I to assume gas production is above expected levels and diesel is not? I don't buy it, and soon won't be able to afford to!
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Old 05-14-2006, 10:19 AM   #7
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My opinion my upset some people but it is the truth. I believe that if we would say to heck with the envionmentalist(treehuggers,greenyweenies)we could drill for our(United States) own oil in Alaska or off the coast of Florida and our prices would come down.
If we can get the Biodiesel and Ethanol idea to take hold that will help us and not tickoff the environmentalist so bad.
I drive a truck for a living and believe me these fuel prices are affecting everything we buy because trucking companies have to make ends meet too.
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I think we could reduce our consumption of oil by using ethanol and 'grease.' I saw on TV last night that Brazil uses very little oil and all 'gas' stations have pumps for ethanol. The Brazilians grow sugar cane and make ethanol. Most cars, and all new cars sold in Brazil, can run on almost pure ethanol and the cost/gal is very low. I read an article recently about a fellow in Canada who has developed a method for getting ethanol from most any kind of plant material. He uses a bacteria to ferment the ground up plants and then extracts ethanol (NOT methanol) from the fermented plants. This method uses leftover agricultural plant products or other plant materials. Similarly,
biodiesel is easy to produce and can be used in various concentrations in engines. Leftover grease can be used in nearly 100% concentration if regular diesel gets the engine going first and is used to clean the engine before shutting down the engine. Seems to me that there are lots of ways we can reduce our use of imported oil. We Americans always have been ingenious in developing new ways of doing things. Why don't we do it now? Just think, ethanol and biodiesel stations all up and down the interstates and elsewhere. Give the oil barons some competition.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sharpshooter123:
I drive a truck for a living and believe me these fuel prices are affecting everything we buy because trucking companies have to make ends meet too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While I drive a "gas" RV, I do totally agree with that statement. My inventory is shipped via tractor-trailer (Diesel) and I am constantly getting fuel surcharge increases for anything I order. If I would not increase my prices, I would lose money.

Both diesel and gasoline prices stink. One thing I have noticed in my area is that gas is not always higher than diesel. There are times when diesel is cheaper per gallon than gasoline is, and vice versa.

Doggievet, I heard about that ethenol thing the other day too. I also seen a thing on TV about making fuel from swine dung. They make it by using some sort of pressure cooker type of device and is very flammable. However they also said the technology would take about 10 years to develop enough for consumers to use it.

Either way both gas and diesel need to drop in price soon.

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I remember about 5-6 years ago, while I was attending a meeting in Iowa City, IA., intermediate grade gas was cheaper than regular unleaded. It had 10% Ethanol/corn. The rental I had ran fine on this intermediate grade with Ethanol.

Diesel and regular unleaded are nearly the same around central Ohio now. Diesel or gas, it hurts to fill up a 35 gal. or bigger tank and then throw in a couple of 5 gal. containers for lawnmowers, etc.

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We still have some of the lowest prices in the world,, I'm not happy with the increase here in the last year,,But , I remember in the 70's, I bought a bike to peddle to college because of the gas lines and lack of gas,, another artifically created problem..so go figure..I got gas today in PA. for 2.76, but desiel was 2.99..thats BS.. winter is over !!
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$2.99 would be nice. Today near Harrisburg I saw $3.15 & $3.09 for diesel, while gas has dropped to $2.82. And it continues! If it wasn't for the wife telling me no way, I was going to start advertising the truck and the 5ver today. I have had it, but apperantly not enough people feel this way yet, so it continues.
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I agree with Sharpshooter, we can blame high diesel fuel prices on the environmentalists and the EPA. I have nothing against clean air but we certainly don't need the overkill. The EPA has mandated eliminating sulphur content in diesel fuel so the oil companies have used that as an excuse to raise diesel prices. We can also blame environmentalists for our failure to drill for oil in ANWR and offshore California and gulf of Mexico, also our failure to build more refineries. Having said all this there is also greed on the part of the oil company executives, also a President and Congress who do not seem to give a ****. We hear some minor comments from them and useless "investigations" which will do absolutely no good.
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