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Old 09-16-2015, 07:22 AM   #29
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I agree with Wildtoad. As long as you can see the rules FIRST - you know what you are getting into. We checked into a CG a few years ago and after we signed the charge slip we got -"Here are our rules. We take them seriously" It was an 8.5x11 sheet with both sides full. They covered everything from pets to fires to peeing in the shower. (You only had five minutes) Really.

Glad it was only a one night stop over. It was a very quiet place somewhere in PA. I don't remember the name now.

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Old 09-16-2015, 09:18 AM   #30
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Well I am quickly approaching that 55 age group (I'm 50). At my age I would support a campground that catered to the older crowd with newer/ luxury coaches. I do however have dog's but wouldn't mind the leash rule. That being said, there are parks that cater to this group so why not parks that cater to younger folks with older rv's and lots of kids and pets? I guess cater to would be too soft a term. Not allow the other group would be better. You don't come to my park and I won't come to yours. Back in the day, I would have went to the park with the loud kids and dogs. My taste has changed over the years so I don't see it as an issue. I see a park that caters to the younger families as a good thing. Parents and kids spending time together most likely teaches the kids how to act properly. It's when they don't have quality time spent with the whole family that things go wrong. Find the park with the rules that fit what you like to do. At my age I certainly wouldn't want to go to a frat party but dinner at the country club sounds great.

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Old 09-16-2015, 10:13 AM   #31
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MOJO ! you speak heresy !!!

How dare you suggest that people go where they are comfortable and not conform to MY way of thinking !!!???!!

That's why our communities have to separate church and state except for one religion/cult. "Resistence is futile"
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:48 AM   #32
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I see it as the difference between RV'ing and Camping. Camping is usually for the younger families with children. The State Parks here in New Mexico are excellent camp grounds. There are rangers to keep the place up and handle the really out of control situations. They aren't camp ground Nazis and if people behave themselves they stay pretty much hands off. I prefer this kind of outing. Watching and interacting with the kids is enjoyable to me (drunk adults is another story). We just came back from a trip to Colorado where WEED is legal and we saw no adverse affects. I really think RV'ers are a different breed and a lot easier to get along with when RV'ing than under the pressure of everyday life.
The more formal RV Resorts naturally attract the more mature set and that's fine. We have done it and don't find it uncomfortable as long as we know up front what kind of outing we're having.
I'm all for freedom of choice and without the contrasting environments that choice is lost. Just let me choose and I'll accept the responsibility for my behavior in the campground. Some people don't do that, but passing new laws and rules does not fix that. Only enforcing sensible requirements can bring the country back to individual responsibility.
I have a dog that had severe separation anxiety and so I would leave her in the car for 10 or 15 minutes alone, weather permitting, to become better adapted. One day, a woman was trying to break my car's window when I returned and was outraged that the puppy was crying. Because she didn't bother to ask about the reasons for my actions, she was ready to have me arrested without any knowledge of the situation. Because we would leave the puppy alone for short periods she now knows we will always come back and is a much more pleasant critter.
If almost everything is illegal then everyone is a criminal, so where is the use in trying not to break the law?
So I'm all for both types of camp grounds. Pick the environment you want and let the rest of the world do the same.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:15 AM   #33
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A local CG we frequent has a decent solution. They have 3 distinctly different areas, we have tried all 3.

First, "On the hill" (better named "Over the hill" is mostly older folks with nicer motorhomes and 5er's. The sites are level and pull through. We hate this area as it's too much like spending time at a funeral home. Dead quiet and virtually no activity at all.

Second, "Family" is where you'll find Class C's, TT's and pop-ups. As you might expect it's very active in the day time and the people are much friendlier than the "Hill People".

And finally, "The Horseshoe" is where everyone else is. Populated with mostly older TT's and tents. Opposite of the "Family Area", this loop off the main road, is active at night. There's a BIG fire ring right in the middle and there's almost always a big neighborhood bon fire at night. It's never been loud or unruly when we have been there, just younger folks enjoying a more traditional camping experience.

We probably enjoy the "Horseshoe" the best of the areas, however, the sites are very unlevel and when it rains, this area stays muddy for several days. Therefore, we usually setup in the "Family" area.

The point is that you are told of these areas and what to expect from each one. You can even take a drive through to see the areas before you check in. Then the choice is yours. The park has few rules and very few "incidents".
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:48 PM   #34
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Does it seem like private campgrounds are getting more strict in their rules and regulations (maybe due to the fact campgrounds are getting more and more crowded and filled to capacity more days of the year).
In the last two CGs on this trip the first one only allowed 1 dog per RV site (I've seen as many as 4 pets per site at some CGs), pet must be attended to at all times (no leaving pet alone in camper), must be on leashes no longer than 6 ft, and on a leash from RV to vehicle and vehicle to RV. That sure stops anyone traveling with more than one dog but nothing was said about how many cats could be at each site.

The second CG we stopped at required no overnight stays by children or visitors under age 55. Registered guests must be 55 or older. Daytime visits require persons under age 55 to stay at the site they are visiting and must be escorted by the registered guest at all times. Guess this would eliminate children or grandchildren from spending the night with grandparents.

None of these affected us as travelers but I could see problems for many.

I guess all these rules probably make for better conditions for campers but it seems it sure puts lots of limits on other travelers.
I really haven't noticed any changes in the rules over the years - seems that most often many rules are not followed - picking up after pets, dogs barking, loud music, people wandering through your site. Maybe I'm visiting the wrong parks but it seems about the same to me.
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:24 PM   #35
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When I am researching campgrounds the first thing I look for is the rules. For the most part they are pretty standard. Second, I look at the reviews. If the reviews indicate the rules aren't being enforced I don't go there.
I don't mind kids, even if they are running through my campsite occasionally. Camping can be a wonderful experience for kids especially if they are from an urban area . I would much rather help them have a positive experience rather than have them think campers are like the grumpy old man down on site x. Quiet times are about the most important rule to me and I respect them and expect others to do so as well. A couple weeks ago we checked into a very nice campground. The "old lady" at the desk read off a list of rules in her best threating voice. I just smiled to myself and thought, yup this is going to be a good place to stay, and it was. The rules are there as a tool to be used as needed by management. They may be based on past experiences by the campground owners and they are necessary. No big deal for me.


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