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Old 04-19-2009, 09:14 PM   #323
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I enjoy the company of a Winchester Defender -- 12 gauge pump, 18 1/4" open choke barrel with seven shots -- the first is #8 bird shot and then after that, alternation of double O buck and slugs. I prefer the shotgun as aiming does not have to be perfect. I recommend that anyone contemplating a gun, get training with it and learn how to use it and handle it. I also recommend obtaining your carry license. I was an instructor for the NRA for several years with certifications in Home Firearm Safety, Safe Hunter, Pistol, Rifle, and Shotgun safety. Also instructed for the State of Texas as a Safe Hunter instructor. I still go to the range and use the gun to stay familiar with it. I also have a "judge" as others have talked about -- it has a great pattern at short ranges and the OO buck is like shooting 5 38s at once.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:10 AM   #324
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I am a retired LEO, and have been certified via weapons qualification yearly to CCW, so yes I carry all of the time in the RV and the toad.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:13 AM   #325
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I bought a shot gun for home defense of my rv and a 44 mag rifle in case for some insane emergency reason I have to provide food for the table. And this past saturday I went to the local gun show and managed to pick up a new 9mm for less than 200 dollars for what ever I decide it might come in handy for. I have been thru the concealed weapon class but have yet to apply for my concealed license. Probably will do that next month. My only concern it being a full time rver and being able to travel not so much from state to state as to traveling into Canada since they tend to be a bit fussy about weapons.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:40 AM   #327
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If my estimates are correct in these posts; more than %80 carry; crooks know this, could be thats why you don;t here of campers being robbed much. those that don't carry can thank those that do carry.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:36 AM   #329
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Yes , 381,30/30, and a 38. Lot's of ammo. And a permit.
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I have been weighing the pros and cons of this issue lately and have yet to come to a conclusion. As a kid I grew up with guns in our home and did quite a bit of hunting, etc. In the past we have done a lot of camping and hiking and we will be doing more now that our daughter is getting old enough to really get out again for more than a night or two of campground camping. Also Phoenix has grown from a "good sized" city to the 5th largest and crime has grown along with it. I am concerned for my families safety and certainly have no hesitation to properly defend ourselves. My worry is about storing a loaded weapon with a 5 year old in the house. Gun locks and a gun safe are obvious answers, but how do you trade off safe weapon storage with having a "ready" weapon? What do you do to keep your children/grandchildren safe? Just hiding the weapon certianly is not an acceptable answer because I certainly was able to find my dad's "safe hiding place".
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For anyone contemplating buying a firearm, I recommend first buying and reading this book: "In the gravest extreme" the role of the firearm in personal protection, by Massad F. Ayoob. I consider the most authoritative and extensive website for firearms information to be: http://www.firearmstactical.com/tactical.htm. It is extremely rare for a firearm to kill a human instantly, most bleed out, giving them time to harm or kill you too.
I must also say this. If you are not sure you can, without hesitation, take a human life you have no business carrying a firearm. It is something you must live with until you die.
No-one will ever know if I have a firearm, unless it's too late to retreat.
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My wife and I have .410 revolvers for self defense. Ours are made by Rossie, and are no longer in production. It is now being made by Taurus in model 4510 in both stainless or blued with 3" or 61/2" barrel. It will fire .45 Colt or .410 shotshell ammunition.
The reason for this choice of weapon is two-fold. First; Self defense means just that and is usually in a panic or semi panic situation. Accuracy goes out the window even with the shooter being well trained and familiar with the weapon. Second; In an invasion situation what is needed is a lot of firepower in a very short time. With A five shot revolver firing .410 shotshells loaded with buckshot, thats a lot of firepower, with very little accuracy required. The 61/2" barrel version weighs in at about 2-1/2 lbs. and most anyone can handle it. There is very little recoil beacuse of the short barrel. The one thing that I noticed was how fast dear wife gained confidense in the weapon and her ability to use it.
Very interested in your revolver with .410 buckshot as I've considered something in this order. Have you ever patterned the .410 buckshot to see at what distance all the shot will hold in a body-sized target? Without any kind of choke like a shotgun, I've wondered if the shot would scatter as wide as the coach at just a few feet. I have my child's size 20 gauge Mossberg pump loaded with alternative buck and slugs but a small hand gun would be great under the pillow. Have seen derringers in .410 gauge but not any revolvers.

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Like my father, I believe in gun safety education. Have a sit down talk with your grandchildren and answer their questions. Show them what damage a bullet can do to a water mellon, what it can penetrate i.e., steel, wall, glass, etc, and the reason they should never touch one until they attend safety school and have permission from you. Also, remind them the importance of reporting to you, their parents, teachers and police if they should ever see a friend or another child with a gun.
Do this not once, but at least annually so you can provide them the opportunity to speak about guns and ask questions. Someday you may want to take them with you when you go to a practice range.
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Amen to that Doggy Daddy!! Accidents happen by ignorance and if you not educate your children, an accident can happen. I grew up with guns as a kid but did own one after becoming a father. I was telling this story at a dinner where there was a police officer/detective there and I said I was scared to have a gun in the house because of my children. He said it is your responsibilty to teach your children about guns even if you do not have one in the house because they can go to their friends house where there are guns and they would have no clue about the safety or damage or bad things that happen with misuse of a gun. I have a gun now that I keep locked up and when I have it out, I show my children the gun and teach them the dangers and proper use of a gun.
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All revolvers should be used in the double-action only mode (meaning never pull the hammer back before you shoot).
One problem with this is if you have a "single action" revolver.. Gun won't go "Bang" unless you cock the hammer (meaning you MUST pull back the hammer)..
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One problem with this is if you have a "single action" revolver.. Gun won't go "Bang" unless you cock the hammer (meaning you MUST pull back the hammer)..
i read what TwoBit said (meant) was ..
'.., never pull back the hammer of a double-action UNTIL you are ready to shoot ..'
that is, don't STORE it that way
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