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Old 04-03-2011, 02:00 PM   #449
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Some police WILL give this advice...gave it to my brother after he was robbed. My CCW instructor said "do you think if this goes to court that that officer will admit it and take a chance of going to jail of losing his job...no he won't and besides that this is manufacturing evidence and if caught you WILL go to jail." Happened right here in my home town!
I'm not going to start something here---- but----Florida law---if someone is in your home (motorhome,) it's called home invasion and you can say you were afraid for your life; Then you are justified to shoot; again; shoot, drag the sucker in your motorhome and make sure he's dead, Of course you will have to lie a little, but if it comes to them or me, its no contest.

St Petersburgh paper had one last week, The homeowner shot and killed the guy-----no charges were issued. the dead guy was found in the home.

Another one in Tampa, a quick pick owner shot and killed a robber---again no charges.

If your brother was robbed and the robber had no weapon, he may have not been in fear of his life, thats why he had his problem.

The secret is to make sure you explain that you were in fear for your life- say that over and over and over.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:20 PM   #450
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I'm not going to start something here---- but----Florida law---if someone is in your home (motorhome,) it's called home invasion and you can say you were afraid for your life; Then you are justified to shoot; again; shoot, drag the sucker in your motorhome and make sure he's dead, Of course you will have to lie a little, but if it comes to them or me, its no contest.

St Petersburgh paper had one last week, The homeowner shot and killed the guy-----no charges were issued. the dead guy was found in the home.

Another one in Tampa, a quick pick owner shot and killed a robber---again no charges.

If your brother was robbed and the robber had no weapon, he may have not been in fear of his life, thats why he had his problem.

The secret is to make sure you explain that you were in fear for your life- say that over and over and over.
Yep, still more afraid of the people in this thread than anything else on the road. I've made it to the age of 56 and have yet to feel the need to shoot anyone. Dragging wounded would be burglars into your RV and murdering them, falsifying evidence, lying under oath. WOW, and you might be camped next to me?
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Yep, still more afraid of the people in this thread than anything else on the road. I've made it to the age of 56 and have yet to feel the need to shoot anyone. Dragging wounded would be burglars into your RV and murdering them, falsifying evidence, lying under oath. WOW, and you might be camped next to me?
Really having trouble understanding your reasoning. I can cite hundreds, possible thousands, of incidents of drunk drivers, road rage, speeding, and burglaries that have caused fatalities on the road, and cannot find any such incidents of an armed RV'r shooting an innocent victim. May be some, but they must be few and far between.

I spent 20yrs under arms protecting you and all others in this country. Given your postings, I assume you also hide under your chair whenever you see a service man or women.

I do not really care if you are armed or not and in fact am glad that you are not. However, many of us who share the RV lifestyle have seen the other side as well and chose for us and our family members not to be victims. MOST of us will not lie, falsify evidence and are willing to accept the consequences of our actions. I hope never to have to put hands on my weapons other than to train, clean or secure, but when I do, I will use it, and with great effect, to protect myself, my family, and others from physical harm.

You've made your choice, we've made ours. I respect your choice, but from your posts you appear to denigrate ours only because it does not fit in your experiences. I hope that you will never have the experiences that some of us have had and will have many trouble free years of RV'n.
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Never leave home without it. Belong to the NRA and don't apoligize and that's as far as I go with people who don't understand guns. It's right up there with discussing religion and politics.
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Really having trouble understanding your reasoning. I can cite hundreds, possible thousands, of incidents of drunk drivers, road rage, speeding, and burglaries that have caused fatalities on the road, and cannot find any such incidents of an armed RV'r shooting an innocent victim. May be some, but they must be few and far between.

I spent 20yrs under arms protecting you and all others in this country. Given your postings, I assume you also hide under your chair whenever you see a service man or women.

I do not really care if you are armed or not and in fact am glad that you are not. However, many of us who share the RV lifestyle have seen the other side as well and chose for us and our family members not to be victims. MOST of us will not lie, falsify evidence and are willing to accept the consequences of our actions. I hope never to have to put hands on my weapons other than to train, clean or secure, but when I do, I will use it, and with great effect, to protect myself, my family, and others from physical harm.

You've made your choice, we've made ours. I respect your choice, but from your posts you appear to denigrate ours only because it does not fit in your experiences. I hope that you will never have the experiences that some of us have had and will have many trouble free years of RV'n.
Just ignore all my posts in this thread. I really should have known better that to jump in here. We live in different worlds. Must be a red state/blue state thing. Back to more positive discussions about RVing!
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"I spent 20yrs under arms protecting you and all others in this country. Given your postings, I assume you also hide under your chair whenever you see a service man or women."

Is this kind of post really necessary? I would hope that a discussion, even about a subject that may be as controversial as CCW's and weapons in RV's, could be carried on more respectfully than this.
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A freind of mine shot and killed a crazed meth attict that broke out his entry door window and was reaching into to un-lock it,,Jerry fire once and ended the threat to his life. This was in a high end RV park. No charges... What do you think, do I carry or not?
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"I spent 20yrs under arms protecting you and all others in this country. Given your postings, I assume you also hide under your chair whenever you see a service man or women."

Is this kind of post really necessary? I would hope that a discussion, even about a subject that may be as controversial as CCW's and weapons in RV's, could be carried on more respectfully than this.
No disrespect intended. Comment was directed at the previous posters stated fear "of the people in this thread." Given your concern, I will remove the question that "offended" you.

Guess not - won't let me edit it. Presumedly because you quoted it. Again, no disrespect intended on my part. I must add however that you failed to note that I stated I respected the posters choice and wished him years of trouble free RV'n.
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No disrespect intended. Comment was directed at the previous posters stated fear "of the people in this thread." Given your concern, I will remove the question that "offended" you.

Guess not - won't let me edit it. Presumedly because you quoted it. Again, no disrespect intended on my part. I must add however that you failed to note that I stated I respected the posters choice and wished him years of trouble free RV'n.
Thanks, I appreciate your follow up. You'll note I didn't use the quote capability of the board, so I could avoid pointing a finger too directly by having it name you, but in any event I think we're on the same page. Message boards can be a difficult way to communicate.
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Whether you carry in your RV is a personal choice that you and you alone will have to make. If you are going to carry, you will have to make up your mind well in advance that you will and can pull the trigger if you or your family is threatened. It will do you no good to have a loaded weapon and you hesitate and try to make the decision at that time. That moments hesitation could change the out come of the situation.

As to whether I carry loaded falls into the category of ...Don't ask, don't tell.

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No disrespect intended. Comment was directed at the previous posters stated fear "of the people in this thread." Given your concern, I will remove the question that "offended" you.

Guess not - won't let me edit it. Presumedly because you quoted it. Again, no disrespect intended on my part. I must add however that you failed to note that I stated I respected the posters choice and wished him years of trouble free RV'n.
My fear was from the poster who advocated moving the wounded body of a would be burglar he just shot into his RV. Then continued in recommending murdering the wounded burglar in the RV and lying to police and under oath in any follow up investigation. That is the type of person I would fear being anywhere near. What that has to do with respect for those in the armed services, I have no idea.
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A few thoughts.....

1) Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
2) Never shoot to wound.
3) Only shoot when you feel you are in bodily danger.
4) Florida has a conceled carry permit that residents of othe states can apply for.
5) There is the "Castle Doctrine" that says you are allowed to carry in your own home (car, RV, truck) or on your own property without a permit.
6) Get a good gun and learn to shoot accurately. My wife and I both have 9mm Glocks, one of the safest guns made.
7) Never wave a gun around or make threats. Only bring your gun out when you feel you are in danger.
8) The Florida CCW has a lot of reciprocity.
9) New York does not accept any permit.
10) Canada does not allow pistols, but you can bring a hunting shotgun.

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True story: I worked at a condo conversion project in Phoenix and one day it was my job to let prospects into the building. The entire front of the building was glass and since there were no residents, we kept the door locked and admitted folks as they came up from the parking lot. A man walked onto our property and I could tell from his appearance that he wasn't there to see our condos. I talked to him through the locked glass door. He said he wanted in and after I explained to him that we were only open to show the model condos to guests he became agitated and said he'd let himself in. He took out a key and inserted it into the lock. It didn't turn the cylinder. So he took out a small file and started to file the key, reinserting it and trying again, then repeating this process again and again. I went back to the desk phone and called the police. Now...the Metro police department rear entrance was visible one block away. I could watch police cars come and go. The dispatcher asked me what I wanted. I told them where I was and that a man was trying to break into our building. They asked a couple more questions and said they'd send a car. He worked on the door for 15 more minutes then wandered off and walked up the street. 30 minutes later the police arrived. I bought a gun the next day.
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