Do you carry Med. Cert. in RV thats required by the Feds?

[dons2346]

"designed to carry more than 10 persons"

You will not find a motorhome "designed" to carry more that 10 people.

[Popcorn Man]

I talked to the Mid-West Truckers Assn and they said RV's are exempt accept when used by NASCAR personnel or other individuals for business purposes. They agree the Il. sec.of state mentions nothing about rec.vehicles being exempt in its NON-CDL booklet. Glad I got the news before the Doc put on his rubber gloves.

[wa8yxm]

What is a medical examiner's certificate.. Don't you watch CSI or Law & Order or NCIS type shows..

IT's the form Ducky (Dr. Mallard, NCIS) fills out after you leave his table of course.

And yes, I'm joking.

It is a card required by some PROFESSIONAL drivers saying that they are medically able to operate the vehicle.. And I'm among the many here who have never heard of it being applied to an RV which is woner operated not for hire or business.

Now if I ran a business out of my RV.. Then I am not sure if I'd need med card or not. If I were driving YOUR RV for pay.. I'm fairly sure I would need one.

But driving MY RV for my own pleasure and for no business than perhaps some emergency response stuff I might voulenteer for on occasion (After all I am a Ham Radio operator, we do that kind of stuff.. The Red Cross my say "We are the first to respond" but who do you think talks them in.. HAM RADIO operators who do not respnd, only because they are already there, that's who)

I have never heard of such a requirement for any person operating his personal vehicle for his personal pleasure

Of course, there are 52 states (And I live in the state of Confusion) (51 in chase you don't know is Washington D.C.)

[Franka548]

I don't have the regulations, but I know that the federal rules state that all vehilcles over 10,000# GVW must carry a fire extinguisher and have a set of refeltive triangles. Also the driver must hold a valid medical card. The rules are changing everyday boys, the powers to be need money and they are getting it anyway they can. All of you with 1 ton dually's take note, even if you are using it privately.

[RustyJC]

Here is the FMCSA/DOT regulation website. Perhaps you can point us to these Federal regulations AS THEY APPLY TO NON-COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND DRIVERS.

Rusty

[Franka548]

They haven't published them yet, but they are in effect, not supposed to be fining yet. Ask your state police that handle commercial vehicle enforcement. I'm just saying that they are changing the rules everyday. and what used to be isn't necessarily true today.

[Franka548]

I'm sorry Rusty, I didn't say where I got my information, Ohio State Highway Patrolman, that works in the commercial vehicle enforcement section. He is the one that is giving the information, and he should know, he is the one that will be writing the citations. I don't like it any more than the next guy, but a fire estinguisher is a good idea anyhow, and it doesn't hurt to have the reflective triangle for safety. The medicak card I have to have anyway, because I have a CDL. Just trying to give a heads up as to what is coming down the pike.

[RustyJC]

Originally Posted by Franka548

They haven't published them yet, but they are in effect, not supposed to be fining yet. Ask your state police that handle commercial vehicle enforcement. I'm just saying that they are changing the rules everyday. and what used to be isn't necessarily true today.

Ummm.....right. You'll pardon me if I'm somewhat skeptical as of this 5 minutes.

As far as Texas DPS personnel are concerned, I've never been stopped or had any discussions with commercial vehicle enforcement personnel - they don't waste their time with non-commercial operators.

Rusty

[Franka548]

I wish I could say that I didn't have any discussions with them, my commercial trucks usually cost me 100 to 250 bucks everytime they decide to converse with me. I hope that I am wrong on this, but I don't think so. There are too many guys usung non commercial trucks for their buisness, that is what is bringing all this on.

[RustyJC]

Originally Posted by Franka548

There are too many guys using non commercial trucks for their business, that is what is bringing all this on.

Those who are doing so are certainly subject to FMCSA/DOT regulation. The non-commercial operators who are NOT using their vehicles for business, however, aren't. The Federal government regulates interstate COMMERCE (i.e., commercial vehicles and operators). Private RV operators are not commercial.

Rusty

[Franka548]

I hear what you are saying Rusty, and I agree with you for the most part. Like I said earlier, a fire extinguisher and reflective triangles are a good idea to have in your TV any ways, now the medical card you probably can beat. It has been nice having a discussion with you, and I mean that sincerly.

[Perry White]

The medical is a Class 3 airmans physical. We need one for NHRA drag racing. Look up FAA flight physical. Same thing. I have to have one to pilot plane.Mines 1st class.

[Ray,IN]

Originally Posted by RJay

Here is an excerpt from the manual:


Federal Regulations for Second Division Vehicles

A second division vehicle is:
7 designed to carry more than 10 persons; Would this not eliminate all RV's?
7 designed or used for living quarters;
7 designed for pulling or carrying freight or cargo;
7 a first division vehicle remodeled for use as a second division vehicle; or
7 a first division vehicle used and registered as a school bus.
Operators of a second division vehicle with a gross motor vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more are required to carry a Medical Examiner's Certificate with them at all times while operating the vehicle. In addition, drivers are required to maintain a file containing a written test verification, road test verification and other records.

The complete manual can be found here. Just click on Rules of the Road for Non-CDL Vehicles

My comment is in redwithin the quote.
As an aside to this conversation. Note page 10 of the referenced link. It appears 42' is the maximum legal length for a motor home in IL.

[Wayne M]

Jim,
You're safe. Only required in Texas for CDL licenses. Well, it was when I was driving. Laws do change I guess.