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Old 07-31-2016, 05:20 PM   #1
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Do You Clean Bathrooms When You Host?

I am just wondering...

Looking over hosting opportunities on the Internet, I have noticed some considerable differences in the descriptions for public (state, US, COE, etc.) campground hosts.

It seems that expectations range from reasonable to absurd. I have seen grass cutting (not onerous, but is it hosting?), trail-blazing, and operating chainsaws. Some want you to pay for your background check!

I am currently hosting in Missouri and the duties are perfectly reasonable. It is a small park so I collect fees (some folks may not want to handle money), chat with guests, check empty sites for cleanliness, replace date and availability tags, check restrooms for t-paper and cleanliness, and sell firewood. I even help check trash cans at the day area and boat ramp - not required, but it keeps the campground nice. I am thoroughly enjoying my time here.

BUT I do not clean restrooms! I just cannot understand why this should fall on a host's shoulders. It is amazing to me how many parks expect this from a host. After all, host is essentially a volunteer. It is community service. Yes, you get a campsite. But factoring in that savings still puts you at below minimum wage, and really there is an added benefit to the campground of having someone on site around-the-clock.

Where do you draw the line when you host?
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BUT I do not clean restrooms! I just cannot understand why this should fall on a host's shoulders. It is amazing to me how many parks expect this from a host. After all, host is essentially a volunteer. It is community service. Yes, you get a campsite. But factoring in that savings still puts you at below minimum wage, and really there is an added benefit to the campground of having someone on site around-the-clock.

Where do you draw the line when you host?
If not you; who?

I wouldn't do things that put your health at risk like using a chain saw. Or even doing strenuous work that could hurt you.
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If not you; who?
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The campgrounds that I've stayed at have usually had maintenance crew (ex: smoky mtn natl park) or paid hourly staff (ex: KOAs) clean the restrooms.

That would be one task that I also would not do as part of my CG host duties.
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Know and understand the 'job requirements' before accepting position.

Afterwards you have no standing.

'HOST' is fancy name for 'handyman' ------ can include escorting, site cleanup, trash pickup, lawn mowing, painting, weed removal etc.

If meet and greet is your thing.....get a Host position at National Park
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I think all the national forest service campgrounds require toilet cleaning. Not a problem for us. What is a problem is most of the national parks want 32 hours per volunteer. That is too much like a full time job.
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I'm guessing but the average campground charges $50 a day for a site. So anyone here willing to clean bathrooms for $50 per day??
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The national forest service campground where we are now gets $10/night with no hookups. We clean 5 toilets 3 days a week and 10 toilets 2 days a week, plus litter and site cleaning.
We do have full hookups.

We knew what the job was before we came and we would do it again. I am happy that there are so many people that will not clean toilets. It makes it much easier for us to get a spot where we want to be.
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The national forest service campground where we are now gets $10/night with no hookups. We clean 5 toilets 3 days a week and 10 toilets 2 days a week, plus litter and site cleaning.

We do have full hookups.



We knew what the job was before we came and we would do it again. I am happy that there are so many people that will not clean toilets. It makes it much easier for us to get a spot where we want to be.
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We have hosted in Washington State Parks for 12 years. Do just about anything we want EXCEPT bathrooms. Paid park aides do that.
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We volunteered at times during our 16 years of full-timing. We never cleaned bathrooms. The national and state parks we were at had the paid maintenance crew doing it and they all attended special classes.

If you're paid such as working in the national forests for concessioners that may be required of you.
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I'm guessing but the average campground charges $50 a day for a site. So anyone here willing to clean bathrooms for $50 per day??
What state park charges $50 per day? My experience puts it at more like $20 per day or $140-$150 per week (assuming a premium for Friday & Saturday night). Depending on the state, they want anywhere from 20 hours per week per host site to 30 hours per week per adult occupant of the host site.

Even at 20 hours, that is $7.00 per hour, which to me is volunteering.

At any rate, I am not condemning those systems which request bathrooms be cleaned or those folks who clean them.

I am only curious as to how many of those who host clean bathrooms or other "extenuating chores" and how many are like my wife and I and draw the line at doing that.
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We volunteered at at Georgia State Park under the assumption that we would be campground hosts. Wow, they had huge management problems where 2 consecutive head Rangers were fired and no one knew what volunteers were arriving. This particular campground had a boat launch plus a public road running through the state park. We ended up cleaning the three public restrooms away from the campgrounds but in the state park. They had not been cleaned for a very long time and were disgusting. I have never seen such disgusting things in the three bathrooms on a daily basis. And the large number of other volunteers were the most racist group I have ever encountered. Quite put us off on volunteering. We stuck out our obligation but would never do that again and we had to pay for our clearance not once but twice since we started in one calendar year and completed our stint in the next calendar year.
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I am just wondering...

Where do you draw the line when you host?
I draw the line on work
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