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Old 07-02-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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Dodged a bullet at Speedco yesterday!

I took the MH to Speedco yesterday for the annual service, including the generator. After the guy had changed the oil in the genny I asked him to check the coolant level in the reservoir. When he removed the cap it was full of motor oil! I had it serviced at that same location back in October, and undoubtedly the guy who changed the oil had removed the wrong cap, started filling it with oil, and when the small reservoir overflowed realized his mistake! Then, instead of admitting his mistake he must have just replaced the coolant cap, removed the correct cap to put the new oil in, then went about his merry way!

The assistant manager accepted responsibility for the error, siphoned the oil out of the reservoir, flushed it with radiator flush, and refilled the system with new antifreeze. It appears that the oil did not get out of the reservoir into the radiator because when the drain was opened it looked like just green antifreeze that came out. Onan tech support support tells me that I'm unlikely to have any problems as a result of this.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:35 PM   #2
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You need to exercise that gen. It appears it has not run since Oct. Why did you have it serviced again?
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You need to exercise that gen. It appears it has not run since Oct. Why did you have it serviced again?

Actually, I run it about 30 minutes every couple of weeks, even when it is just sitting in the yard. It is my understanding that nothing is pulled from the reservoir into the radiator system unless the fluid in the radiator is low. That would explain why the oil does not appear to have gotten down and mixed with the coolant.
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Having just done mine in OKC at Speedco, please tell me it wasn't there.

I am always watching, even if it is from the office. One of the guys in the pit dropped the extended life water filter, thinking it was fuel, even remarking that the 'fuel' is not stopping running out. A gallon of coolant went on the floor before they got it back on.
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Thanks. Just curious. I would of thought that the thermal expansions would have mixed the water and oil. I have always had great service from Speedco.
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why do you think you dodged a bullet? Oil in the coolant isnt all that bad.
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Thanks. Just curious. I would of thought that the thermal expansions would have mixed the water and oil. I have always had great service from Speedco.
You forgot two things.

1 Water and oil do not mix
2: Oil is less dense than water so it floats atop the water less stirred or homogized. (Emulsified).

So as the coolant heated and expended and flowed into the recovery tank, the oil floated on the top.

When the coolant cooled and was sucked back into the engine cooling system, recovered coolant was sucked from the BOTTOM of the tank, below the oil.


Reading this thread.. I think I'll shop elsewhere.
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You forgot two things.

1 Water and oil do not mix
2: Oil is less dense than water so it floats atop the water less stirred or homogized. (Emulsified).

So as the coolant heated and expended and flowed into the recovery tank, the oil floated on the top.

When the coolant cooled and was sucked back into the engine cooling system, recovered coolant was sucked from the BOTTOM of the tank, below the oil.


Reading this thread.. I think I'll shop elsewhere.
Thanks for the explanation! Guess that explains why there was no oil in the coolant drained out of the radiator! I don't know what would have happened if the oil had gotten into the radiator, but it sure scared me!

I will continue to use Speedco because they are less than half the price I would have to pay a truck shop to do the same thing, but you can be sure I will be watching their every move from now on!
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Wow. That does sound like it could have ended much worse. Too bad Speedco hired such a dufus but glad to hear that they took responsibility.

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I took the MH to Speedco yesterday for the annual service, including the generator. After the guy had changed the oil in the genny I asked him to check the coolant level in the reservoir. When he removed the cap it was full of motor oil! I had it serviced at that same location back in October, and undoubtedly the guy who changed the oil had removed the wrong cap, started filling it with oil, and when the small reservoir overflowed realized his mistake! Then, instead of admitting his mistake he must have just replaced the coolant cap, removed the correct cap to put the new oil in, then went about his merry way!
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Your experience is a sad, but true, commentary about ANY "service" ANYWHERE in America.
Pride in workmanship is a thing of the past, as is hiring high caliber workers and paying them well.
The workers only care when their shift will be over and the company only cares about the "bottom line".
We should not have to become experts in the care of every aspect of our coaches and monitor the employees of a $120 an hour service department to be sure they don't screw something up.
But unfortunately that's the way it is!
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I don't think it's the issue with who they hired, but with who TAUGHT them. Remember, everyone was a doofus once, right?
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We all should also remember, mistakes happen. They happen to us all.....every single one of us. Of all the many people I know, not a single one has gone through life without making a mistake occasionally.

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We will never know for sure, but when we bought a pre-owned motorhome some years ago, the dealer was doing all of the last minute things before delivery. They worked on the brakes, as I recall and we can only presume the guy was interrupted, and forgot where he left off tightening things. About 150 miles from home, on our maiden trip (which was also for business), my DH saw, in the rear view mirror, the rear axle moving out from the wheel well. He made a quick, hard turn on the steering wheel, moving the coach and wheel back into position, immediately pulled to the shoulder - and there we sat until a tow truck could tow it back to the dealer.

Stuff happens, and sometimes there is no way to go back and see if it was done correctly.

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That would be a differential problem not the brakes.

You'll have to apologize for blaming the brake tech, nothing he could do would result in the axle coming out.

This was a much deeper pre-existing mechanical problem
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