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Old 01-07-2012, 08:46 AM   #29
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I worked on large mainframe computers in the 70's. There was one particular model that had an integrated control unit sandwiched into the leg of the main console.. Unfortunately, that controller required two large cables with ridge metal ends on them be connected to it. We, in the service field, cussed the engineer who mounted that controller every time we had to install one of those machine.

As luck would have it, we required on-site engineering support for that model and got several people from the plant out to the customer site. While we were sitting around talking, waiting for the customer to turn over the machine to us, we started lamenting about how difficult getting those cables was into the console leg. It turned out that one of the plant guys WAS the engineer responsible for the position of that controller. We became agitated and after several minutes of our snarling and snarking, he just smiled. He calming told us that he had used all our arguments and more when he was told to put the controller into that location. He said the management response was simple "do our or we'll find someone else who will." More often than not, bad engineering is the result of management dictum, not logic and reason.

I truly believe that most RVs are made in a "one off" manner. There is a basic design and the individual components within it ebb and flow based on what is perceived to be "customer need". The installers are told to "just do it" and they comply. If you were to complain, the managers would blame the installers. That is just how it works.
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There's also the classic multi - manufacturer stupidity regarding the driver's seat back and slide out proximity? That problem seemed to take everyone quite a while to find - the one where 6' + drivers were smashing the seat backs into the slideouts trying to find room for their knees? That one has quite a few still paying their dues for that boondoggle!
That's exactly why we didn't get the slideout when we bought ours. They must plan on all drivers being no taller than 5'8"......
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:33 AM   #31
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The one big design issue I never understood.

Mounting a TV overhead between the front seats. Unless you are single, stretched out on the couch they are useless.
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Mount thermostat beside tv (2"). Took me a while to figure out why AC would not cut off when watching TV.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #33
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Speaking of magazines, can anybody tell me what is wrong with the MB ad on page 5 of the recent MotorHome magazines? If you guess right, you win a... Well, you just win.
It has a TT picture on it?
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:22 AM   #34
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The one big design issue I never understood.

Mounting a TV overhead between the front seats. Unless you are single, stretched out on the couch they are useless.

BigV, I totally agree! Thank goodness for flatscreen TVs, I was able to mount one on the wall across from the couch. I removed and made a storage compartment where the CRT TV was located overhead between the seats.

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Maybe they are scared that their Norcold will burn their rig while they are sleeping
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Dumb RV Designs

The two things you cannot use in the same sentence are " Engineer" and "common sense".
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I've got two items for the list:

The barrel chair, if you rock or lean back at all, hits the 'step' switch (which is poorly placed and too low) and allows the step to retract. Not a great idea, especially at night when your not expecting the step to be tucked in for travel.

My second nomination is the awning installed by Itasca; you can only open the door approximately 100 degrees and then it whacks the awning arms mounted to the side of the motohome.

When the awning is open and even in it's highest position, the top of the door scrapes the awning, making the awning a great paper weight and nothing more.
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It's apparent that the details of many RV models are neither designed nor engineered properly. I think the installation folks make things up as they go along.
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Speaking of magazines, can anybody tell me what is wrong with the MB ad on page 5 of the recent MotorHome magazines? If you guess right, you win a... Well, you just win.
They are in a tent with a class c behind them
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They are in a tent with a class c behind them
Bingo, we have a winner.(nice hair though)
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My Breeze came with two water pump switches. One on the control panel and the other not 4' away, next to the lavatory sink. Duh! How about one in the kitchen and/or in the bathroom?

Mine has 2 switches also, wired like a 3-way light switch so if you're in the bathroom you can turn the pump on to flush or wash your hands. The control panel switch is over the stove, just a few feet from the kitchen sink.

Makes sense to me.
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I can reach both at the same time.
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