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Old 02-06-2013, 01:08 PM   #1
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I've always wondered how our neighbor can have outrageous electric bills when running an electric heater? We run 2 electric heaters all day and have a washer/dryer and dishwasher that are both ran on an almost daily basis too, yet our electric bill is a quarter of his! Do RV's consume electric differently? This seems to happen at all campgrounds!
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:13 PM   #2
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I've always wondered how our neighbor can have outrageous electric bills when running an electric heater? We run 2 electric heaters all day and have a washer/dryer and dishwasher that are both ran on an almost daily basis too, yet our electric bill is a quarter of his! Do RV's consume electric differently? This seems to happen at all campgrounds!
I'm confused. Are you comparing a house to an RV? Can you provide a bit more detail on what you have and what you are comparing to?
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Sorry both of us are in RV's. Its at a metered campground. You would think with everything we run in our rv as opposed to his that our electric bill would be the outrageous one instead of his. Its just always confused me how that can happen.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:02 PM   #4
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Could be the converter.

Ours is a ferro-resonant transformer based unit, great for their time as they naturally regulate the output voltage over wide input range.

But to do this they are "fully saturated", meaning they draw high loads regardless of actual loads.

Messured ours at about 5 amps or 600 watts doing nothing, so about 1/3 the cost of running the AC.

We leave ours off and use Battery minders for storage.

If full timing AND electric is metered then the converter would need to go.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:02 PM   #5
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He's either using more electricity than you are, or being charged a higher rate.

I hope for your sake he doesn't go to the office and complain only for them to discover they've been undercharging you!
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Maybe the meter reader has you two mixed up. Your neighbor is being charged for what you use, and you are being charged for what he uses.

What ever you do, don't complain to the management!
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Assuming that both units have 50 amp service, how the unit is wired can affect the bill. If a lot of the high draw appliances are on the same leg, your bill will be higher. The bill will be less if the load is balanced between the two power legs.
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probably most of the difference is in your styles.... and rv insulation... and shade... and awnings... and double pane windows... and color of rv

just like two people drive the same car and one gets 20 mpg and the other gets 10 mpg

maybe he sets his heat to 80 and you set yours to 60 ? etc...
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this is simply not true...usage is billed on watts and it does not matter which leg....how can you explain this ...

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this is simply not true...usage is billed on watts and it does not matter which leg....how can you explain this ...
I wondered about that, too...
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Maybe you get his bill and they get yours.
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Maybe he has a electrical short somewhere in his RV. It's not unheard of, a very small draw that you don't notice, but that's running 24 hours a day, 30 days a mont,h ends up adding a lot to your bill.
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i could see this on the 12v side and would make the charger run more but would have to be noticed with hot wires and eventual failure but not the 120 end of things....jeff

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Maybe he has a electrical short somewhere in his RV. It's not unheard of, a very small draw that you don't notice, but that's running 24 hours a day, 30 days a mont,h ends up adding a lot to your bill.
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My brother lived in a trailer once ;back in the day; and it had a heat tape to keep the water line from freezing in the winter. One year the heat tape shorted out and because it was not cold enough out to freeze the water he had no way of knowing that had happened until he got the electric bill a month later. The bill was 4 times higher then normal. Thankfully, he had insurance that in those days covered part of the bill or he would have been stuck.

So yes, you can have a short in the 120 volt side of things and have no idea.
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