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08-09-2015, 06:40 PM
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Should I ask for more? Should I invite the dealer to look at this thread? I used text messages instead of email, and I could see wether or not he read them. I don't like the confrontation and so far the exchanged were not confrontational. On the other hand I feel pretty bad about having to pay 4k to fix something that the RV dealer could have prevented if he had repaired correctly before selling it to me. Isn't it too late now that he agreed to pay for 3k as this is what I asked?
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08-09-2015, 06:53 PM
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Not when you tell him you had to use a rebuilt engine and a used one was not available.
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08-09-2015, 06:54 PM
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Education ain't cheap.. none of my lessons have been.. It could be worst .
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08-09-2015, 06:55 PM
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Rmind,
It sounds like you've worked out a deal you're happy with and get to keep the coach you really like. Have fun getting back on the road and enjoying the RV life 😀
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08-09-2015, 07:02 PM
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What are the specs of the use engine? (Milege...what type of vehicle did it come out of etc....)
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08-09-2015, 07:12 PM
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What are the specs of the use engine? (Milege...what type of vehicle did it come out of etc....)
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Post #50, He couldn't use the used engine, he went with rebuilt.
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08-09-2015, 07:19 PM
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When you bought the vehicle, you should have been presented with a copy of the mechanical inspection certificate?
Its simple. In order to create such a certificate, this should have been checked, found to be in good order, and then passed. If this did not happen, then he is a crook (or the employer of a lazy mechanic).
HAVE THIS VEHICLE FULLY INSPECTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
If anything else should arise, document it and ask for it to be repaid. Do not take no for an answer, and do not offer a dime.
If the dealer refuses, you can involve the DOT, not to mention local media, all of which works wonders.
Yes, point the dealer here, so he can see what people think of his 'deal', and how well it sits.
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08-09-2015, 07:23 PM
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2002 mod what kinda warranty do you get on a as is sale? LOl I think he did good to get anything. Hell a Rolls Royce warranty don't last that long. Get her fixed up an enjoy!
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08-09-2015, 07:38 PM
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2002 mod what kinda warranty do you get on a as is sale? LOl I think he did good to get anything. Hell a Rolls Royce warranty don't last that long. Get her fixed up an enjoy!
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If you read the first post, you would see that a warranty of 30 days was offered.
A few posts latter the OP stated that the selling dealer would honor it, with some conditions.
Then it is discovered that the dealer removed federal required components and sold a defective vehicle.
And you find this funny?
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08-09-2015, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
If you read the first post, you would see that a warranty of 30 days was offered.
A few posts latter the OP stated that the selling dealer would honor it, with some conditions.
Then it is discovered that the dealer removed federal required components and sold a defective vehicle.
And you find this funny?
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Twinboat, I'm right there with you. I don't find it funny either. I find it deplorable, and very possibly a criminal offense on the part of the Dealer if he did indeed either remove the catalytic converter, or knowingly sell a vehicle that had the emission control components tampered with. The only way to stop dealers like that is to call them out when you get into that situation. Even WITHOUT any warranty of ANY type, if he removed or sold a vehicle that had had any part of the vehicle emissions system tampered with, he should be buying the vehicle back and reimbursing the purchaser for ALL his expenses. He should count himself lucky that he isn't going to jail.
I know that it's easy to sharp shoot when you aren't personally involved, but if what appears to have happened did indeed happen, I would request and require that either 1)the vehicle either be taken back and all my expenses reimbursed, or 2) the vehicle receive a rebuilt engine, a new fuel tank, and the emissions control system be returned to factory original with proof of passing emissions tests. I would also have the rest of the vehicle inspected for ANY and ALL SAFETY defects and those corrected as well.
I know the original poster states that he does not like lawyers OR confrontation, but I think that if he were to have an attorney review the situation and write a polite letter to the dealer, the dealer would fall all over himself to correct the situation, with no out of pocket expenses to the original poster. Personally, I would contact an attorney, have him/her send the letter, leave the RV at it's present location, rent an RV, finish my vacation, and THEN deal with the dealership.
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08-09-2015, 07:51 PM
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The dealer removed it or the previous owner? No I didn't say it was funny .... I think he said he was happy with what he got . The dealer did honor a unwritten warranty that's pretty damn rare ..
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08-09-2015, 08:00 PM
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Engine blowout 3 weeks after purchase
How can I prove that the dealer removed the cat converter. He told me he had removed a rusted pipe and welded a new pipe. The newly welded pipe is at the location of where the cat converter used to be. What if he said that there was no cat converter when he took possession of the RV?
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08-09-2015, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmind
How can I prove that the dealer removed the cat converter. He told me he had removed a rusted pipe and welded a new pipe. The newly welded pipe is at the location of where the cat converter used to be. What if he said that there was no cat converter when he took possession of the RV?
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I think you did the best you can on the deal, You got him to pay as much as you could and no one could prove the dealer did it ... The other owner might have did it. I sure as hell was not laughing at your situation either like some of these keyboard lawyers on here .. I lost $4000.00 on a brand new 2008 dodge 1 ton diesel in one day and from a Dodge dealer and never got a dime back .. Thats why I said get it going and enjoy !
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08-09-2015, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmind
How can I prove that the dealer removed the cat converter. He told me he had removed a rusted pipe and welded a new pipe. The newly welded pipe is at the location of where the cat converter used to be. What if he said that there was no cat converter when he took possession of the RV?
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If you have no documentation, no photos, no noted objections, no nothing, then its quite possible you cannot prove. You can however try use his own laziness/fear against him, perhaps it can overcome the greed.
IF he claims it wasnt there when he got it, then you should certainly keep a record of that. Its his responsibility to ensure its there, and in good working order OR to have you sign AS IS, which you did not.
A missing cat should have caused a check engine light?
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