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Old 12-24-2012, 02:42 AM   #1
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Fifth wheel with a toad?

We saw something we had never seen before on I-10 in Tucson today. A Ford pickup towing a Forest River fifth wheel of around 28 feet with a tow bar towing a Suzuki car. They were from Montana.

Is that really safe ? I wanted to take a picture as it seemed so unreal
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:19 AM   #2
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I quess it's as safe as a UPS rig with to 20ft trailers. In a majority, I think, of states it is illegal. I sure as shoot wouldn't do it. D
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You see quite a bit of it around Texas, especially during hunting season with 5th wheels towing Jeeps or, in the summertime, boats. Many states have prohibitions against "towing double", and some that do allow it require special driver license endorsements, and overall length laws still apply. The fact remains that most 5th wheel frames aren't designed for these towing loads, however.

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They also need to be aware of the maximum rig length in the states they are towing through.

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Old 12-24-2012, 06:39 AM   #5
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A semi-common sight in Mich, where it's legal. Far from legal in every state.
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I see light fishing boats (1000-1200lbs?) behind 5ers all the time. But a car? Please, where's the common sense with something that heavy?
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I did it for 14 years, towing a 30 foot Jayco fiver and a 22 foot Baja behind it with a 454 Chevy in the Baja. All over Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. You see it all the time around here. I have even seen bumper pull rvs with a boat behind. The weirdest is when you see boats with a jet ski trailer behind the boat. Seen this one time and the boat trailer was modified to support a hitch on back to accommodate the jet ski trailer. It is very safe with a fiver with electric brakes, like I pulled and a boat with surge brakes. Very safe and stable. Couldn't tell the boat was there.
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I see light fishing boats (1000-1200lbs?) behind 5ers all the time. But a car? Please, where's the common sense with something that heavy?
My fiver was about 8K and the boat and trailer about 4K. No problem at all. A car would be no different.
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Triple towing IS allowed in a majority of US states:
  • Alaska
  • Arizona
  • Arkansas
  • California
  • Colorado
  • Idaho
  • Illinois
  • Indiana
  • Iowa
  • Kansas
  • Kentucky
  • Louisiana
  • Maryland
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Mississippi
  • Missouri
  • Montana
  • Nebraska
  • Nevada
  • New Mexico
  • North Dakota
  • Ohio
  • Oklahoma
  • South Dakota
  • Tennessee
  • Texas
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RVers are just pushing the limits on how many "boy toys" they carry around the country. Now you got these 44' triple axle toy haulers being pulled by under sized 3/4 ton trucks...

Brings me to this past summer. This guy whipped this monster 44' toy hauler into a tight city gas station backwards, with only himself in the truck. Then after gassing up could not get out forward, so he had to back out into traffic with no help. I offered to "spot him", but he was in too much of a hurry to be on his way. He had to zig / zag backwards again to get to a side street exit out of the gas station.....I can't believe he didn't hit anything.....The speed at which he was backing up was scary to watch.....
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Maybe on interstates, but betting not legal on surface roads.
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I did it years ago. What is more common than a law allowing it is nothing on the books about it. Then it becomes a local decision. If the trooper believes it is dangerous or maybe against the law he may write a ticket and let the courts decide.
Some of the States authorities in the chart above stopped me and would not allow it, so I would not use it as gospel.
The same goes for Interstate Roads, State, county or city. You may have a different decision as each may have different lane widths and different allowances.
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Maybe on interstates, but betting not legal on surface roads.
I always thought the Interstates were on the surface too. I learn something new every day.......
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My initial thoughts were " Why would someone need a toad car if they were pulling a fifth wheel?" I thought people owned fifth wheels so they could park them and drive the tow vehicle. I also wonder how the tow bar was attached and if the frame was rugged enough to do it safely

I stayed well away from that thing
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