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Old 10-19-2014, 04:22 PM   #1
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First time doing my own oil change in 20 yrs.

The local RV dealer wanted almost $100 for an oil change on my Ford V10. Not this year. So I call around to all the oil change places and no one can do it. Called a couple truck repair places and their booked for the next few days and I want to put it in storage PDQ. Sooo... I'm retired and have extra time, I'll do it myself and save a ton of money!
Well by the time I walk out of the auto parts store the first time with oil, filter, and large size catch pan I'm lighter by $40, but still ahead.
When I get home I throw a large piece of cardboard under the oil pan along with filter wrench, filter, catch pan, ratchet and sockets. I climb under and hey the drain plug is right over the suspension thingie. Trouble coming. So what the heck, I've got cardboard down, so go for it. Well the oil hits the suspension thingie and splashes everywhere but still some of it goes in the catch pan. On to the filter. Here's where I find out the filter wrench I have is too small. Off to the auto store. Guy sells me a filter wrench that works with my ratchet and the oil filter they had previously sold me. Another $7, but I'm still ahead. Well it fits fine on the new filter but too small for the old filter, so... off to the auto parts store. This time I buy the kind that has the handle on it. Guy tells me it's not as good as the other, but I'm not going to pay for two different ratchet type filter wrenches to change my oil this one time. He's right, it's a pita, but I finally get it off. So... it's time to add the oil. The quart size container, no problem, but there's no way the 5 quart container will fit in the available space. Soo... back to the auto parts store to get a funnel with a really long neck to reach the fill tube. No such animal. So now I'm pouring oil out of the 5quart container into the 1 qt. and then into the fill tube. So... after parts,gas,tool's and my time I think I broke even at $100.
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Old 10-19-2014, 04:40 PM   #2
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Kinda odd your old and new filters are'nt the exact same size .
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It is rather common for aftermarket oil filters to be smaller than the Ford filter. The price on them is low and so is the quality. That is why I always say "the only guarantee that your oil filter is correct is when you buy the one that says Motorcraft (insert OEM name here) on it". If for any reason that filter fails, Ford will pay for all repairs no questions asked. And yes I have seen this before. The can blew off a motorcraft oil filter a few years back. Ford paid to install a complete reman engine on a 10 year old car with 150K + miles on it.

BTW many Ford dealers only charge $30-$50 for oil changes on motorhomes. The dealer I used to work for charged $30. They all must use Motorcraft semi syn oil as a minimum. The other places??????????????????
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When I had my Ford gasser, I'd balance about a 7" thick catch basin on the top of the axle to drain the oil. Worked well a few times! Once, not so much !!
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:09 PM   #5
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Only use the Motorcraft filter 820s it has the correct anti-backflow valve...its $3.68 at Wamart. Ford Motorcraft oil 5w-20 semi-syn is great oil at low cost OEM. Buy the correct formed wrench for the stock filter and you are good to go. Cover the axle under the filter/plug with the wifes tin foil to make the mess less.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:14 AM   #6
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Hi,
Good for you saving money.Along with savings did you

Crawl under and check rear axle fluid level,

check levels on power steering,brake fluid ,etc

grease what there is to grease on chassis?
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Just think, next time you wont have to buy anything but the oil & filter.. But next time you should order a fumoto valve to replace the drain plug.. Then for the third oil change you can drain straight into a milk jug..So easy.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:33 AM   #8
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Just think, next time you wont have to buy anything but the oil & filter.. But next time you should order a fumoto valve to replace the drain plug.. Then for the third oil change you can drain straight into a milk jug..So easy.
X2. Just did mine. Fumoto valve works great!
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I understand completely.

I read the story as not so much about the oil change but about a man living the predictable folly most of us face in our lives. Rising prices, our endless desire to better ourselves, outsmart the system before it outsmarts us and a long list of human foibles. Just doing the best we can with what we got and many times we fall short. Or as he notes "break even". (not really)

I had an old car once, thirty years ago, loved it, would do anything for it; but it would not do anything for me. And when I sadly and at the same time gleefully parted with it I vowed never to lay on my back on a garage floor again.

I miss my boat too, but I am not going back for more; that's a whole other story.

So I pay the price; some one else, any one else gets to change my oil. I have a friend with a boat.
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Njs42, l totally agree with niat comment. DW and I lived aboard a twin engine trawler for ten before selling it and buying our RV. Just finished my first oil change, and it wasn't near as bad as the boat. Borrowed a truck from marine industry. Used an oil change pump hooked to a fumoto valve. Entire operation took less than 30 min. Still, 5gals of oil and oil filter set me back 114$ This lifestyle ain't cheap, but WAY cheaper than fulltime on a boat.
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Yes to the fumoto valve AND oem filters! F150 Ecoboost oil plug also aims at suspension, oil goes all over. Now I put a hose on the end of the valve and I drain back into the 5 quart container.
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I am in the same "boat" ... No I don't have a boat,,, but 'usually' do my own oil changes... Now days the cost is about the same on my Grand Cherokee to buy the oil/filter than to have a quick lube place do it... At least when I do it,, I know it's done right... And yes I'm getting to the point in life I Hate turning wrenches anymore... Laying on my back, having to wear glasses,, aches and pains everywhere... Recently changed front&rear diff fluids and transfer case fluid on my 04 Jeep.. Mopar fluid was Expensive,, but I saved a few hundred $$... Cleaning up the mess like said is the worst part....
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Ford dealer closest to me (2mi) does not do trucks and their Quick Change bay will not accomadate the Tioga so I would have to go to the Ford Truck dealer in North Raleigh a 40 - 50 mi round trip.

I park on my hi tek levelling system (2 x 10s) and drain the oil in my big plastic pan and while draining fill my 820 filter from Walmart (3.97) with the quart I buy at the time I buy my 5qts of Ford Synthetic blend. After the dripping stops I put the filter full of oil on the vehicle then pour the 5qts in the engine.My big plastic pan pours into my 5gal gas can (used for oil). No muss no fuss as the drain is ont obstructed by the axle on the E450.

Job done correctly (engine is not started on a dry filter) and I always check for diff/axle leaks. No sign of a leak = leave the diff plug alone.

Oils is $17.97 - 5 qts filter is $3.97 + the qt and I guess that is approx 3.00??
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Ford dealer closest to me (2mi) does not do trucks and their Quick Change bay will not accomadate the Tioga so I would have to go to the Ford Truck dealer in North Raleigh a 40 - 50 mi round trip.

I park on my hi tek levelling system (2 x 10s) and drain the oil in my big plastic pan and while draining fill my 820 filter from Walmart (3.97) with the quart I buy at the time I buy my 5qts of Ford Synthetic blend. After the dripping stops I put the filter full of oil on the vehicle then pour the 5qts in the engine.My big plastic pan pours into my 5gal gas can (used for oil). No muss no fuss as the drain is ont obstructed by the axle on the E450.

Job done correctly (engine is not started on a dry filter) and I always check for diff/axle leaks. No sign of a leak = leave the diff plug alone.

Oils is $17.97 - 5 qts filter is $3.97 + the qt and I guess that is approx 3.00??
You do know the V-10 take 7 qts total?
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