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Old 05-21-2007, 09:19 PM   #15
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The official handout I got from FJ specifically says Mastercard debit/credit will be accepted. Also Amex & Discover.

As for using Visa at the fuel desk rather than the pump, I don't think so. If that was a choice, I think it would have been included in the list of alternatives described in the FJ handout. The truckers have to go inside to get their receipt anyway, so using the card inside would be a painless alternative for them if it were allowed. And for us too. In my opinion the reference to using the Visa card inside probably applies to other purchases (food merchandise, etc) or to fuel purchased via the car and RV islands.

Also, some FJs are franchise locations, not owned by the FJ corporation. I don't know if these are affected by the No Visa announcement or not.
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As to the $100 charge, when you swipe your card at the pump, it authorizes a certain amount to verify the card is valid. I have heard of some stations authorizing an amount as high as $100. When I use my Visa Debit card as a credit card, at FJ and other gas stations, it only authorizes $1, then 2 or 3 days later, I will see the full amount of the fuel purchase come out of my account and the $1 authorization disappear. This basically puts a hold on the funds for that preauthorized amount unitl the actual purchase amount clears.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:59 AM   #17
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:30 AM   #18
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There was a gas station back home that had a sign saying that it did not accept ANY credit cards. The price of gas there was 10 cents cheaper than everywhere else.

When I shop at little mom and pop type stores, I try to use cash instead of my VISA debit card. This saves them the fees associated with card transactions. I think it is awful that the card companies charge interest to the purchases (among other fees) and also charge as much as 18% to the retailer. That is double dipping. I have also been to campgrounds that will only give you the AAA discount if you pay by cash or traveler's checks. Some offer a discount for those paying cash. It only seems fair that cash customers would pay less than those using a card since cash customers don't cost the retailer that fee.
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Approx 1998 FJ stopped taking the comdata fuel card for the same reason. Their fuel sales went up so people adapt. When FJ opens in an area others have to lower prices to compete.
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Rather long explanation of the Flying J/Visa issue in Land Line Magazine.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Flying J halts use of Visa cards for truck diesel Friday

This sign was posted in the window of the Flying J at Interstate 435 and Front Street in Kansas City, MO. The chain will stop accepting Visa debit and credit cards for diesel purchases at its truck pumps nationwide at 5 p.m. Friday, May 25.

(Photo by David Tanner, Land Line staff writer)The Flying J will no longer accept Visa credit and debit cards for diesel purchases at truck pumps beginning at 5 p.m. on Friday, May 25.

Customers may use Visa for purchases inside Flying J's convenience stores, at gasoline pumps and even at RV pump islands.

Daniel Cordner, who oversees sales in Missouri and Illinois for THC fleetcard services, a sales transaction subsidiary of the Flying J, told Land Line Magazine on Wednesday that the change was prompted by Flying J wanting to get out from under expensive per- transaction processing fees from Visa. According to the National Association of Convenience Stores, those processing fees are the second highest cost in the fuel retailing business.

"We're trying to save our customers more," said Cordner, who said Visa chose not to lower its costly transaction fees. "We are still ready to welcome them back with open arms."

The change is just one more fuel-related issue for truckers and other drivers preparing for a summer of expensive gas and diesel purchases.

Diesel prices averaged $2.919 as of Thursday afternoon, according to AAA's Daily Fuel Gauge Report.

The crush of high gas prices is also hurting individual fuel retailers, who lose an average of 2.75 percent of the sale price for every gallon sold for credit card and bank processing fees, according to the National Association of Convenience Stores.

The Flying J offers multiple fuel purchase credit and debit cards, Cordner told Land Line, including a Mastercard version that competes with Visa.

Several OOIDA members have contacted Land Line about the Flying J issue.

Michael Corwin, an OOIDA member from Franklin, OH, told Land Line he prefers using his Flying J card because of what he considers relatively low transfer fees. Corwin said each credit card company offers its own advantages.

"The only bad thing I can say is the (Flying J) does charge $1 per ATM transaction," Corwin said.

Virginia Parker, the Flying J's spokeswoman, hasn't returned more than five phone messages and e-mails requesting comment to Land Line Magazine. Parker told Land Line last week that the Visa issue was "complicated," and an employee in Parker's office Thursday acknowledged many phone calls recently about the issue.

Public outcry may not matter, Corwin said.

"I doubt the ˜Hook' will change their minds," he said.

– By Charlie Morasch, staff writer
charlie_morasch@landlinemag.com </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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I just completed a trip from Middleburg, Fl to Santa Fe, NM. The route was I10/US49/I20/US287/I40. Used FJ and was able to use a Visa at all locations.
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I only fill up in the truck lanes. And, I've always paid inside so I would get a receipt. So, the VISA thing at the pumps is no problem to me.

Furthermore, I only pay for fuel with my Discover Gasoline card anyway. This get's me a 5% rebate on all fuel purchases! . . .up to a certain limit per year, anyway.

I also use the Flying J Real Value Card.

So, at Flying J I receive 1 cent per gallon off the CASH price while using my Discover Gasoline (fuel) card which provides another 5% discount.

Does VISA offer such a rebate?
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used VISA card yesterday at the Flying J in
New Jersey had no promblem at Car/RV lanes
went inside and asked about them not accepting VISA in the future
they knew nothing
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:28 AM   #24
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It only applies to the truck islands, however when you have a freightliner with a 40' hooked up you need to use the truck islands with satellite pump. We have fuel tanks on both sides of the truck.
There are some spots that we have made a habit of fueling at that only have a FJ truck stop, Wells NV comes to mind, in fact they have 2 FJ's and that's all.
Guess we will have to plan our stops a little differently or carry a sack of cash.
Just another bump on the road of fulltiming, this one we will steer around
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:10 AM   #25
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There are other CC choices besides VISA. I use AMEX. They give 5% rebate on fuel, groceries and pharmacy. 1.5% on everything else. There is no limit to the amount of rebate one can earn. There is no cost for the card. It is called Blue Cash. Consider going to the AMEX Blue Cash web site and check it out.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I just completed a trip from Middleburg, Fl to Santa Fe, NM. The route was I10/US49/I20/US287/I40. Used FJ and was able to use a Visa at all locations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But did you fuel at the truck islands after 5 pm on 5/25/07? That's when the "no Visa at the truck pumps" edict went into effect. Since you posted fairly early the next morning, chances are your purchases were made before the ban started.

And FJ franchise locations may not be affected - it's their individual call if they are not a company owned location.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV Roamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I just completed a trip from Middleburg, Fl to Santa Fe, NM. The route was I10/US49/I20/US287/I40. Used FJ and was able to use a Visa at all locations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But did you fuel at the truck islands after 5 pm on 5/25/07? That's when the "no Visa at the truck pumps" edict went into effect. Since you posted fairly early the next morning, chances are your purchases were made before the ban started.

And FJ franchise locations may not be affected - it's their individual call if they are not a company owned location. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



You're correct. I used the RV fueling stations and it was prior to 5/27. I was looking for, but did not see, any notices concerning non-acceptance of Visa cards.
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All, Maybe late to the party but I came through the FJ in VA (exit 104) and the FJ near the SC/GA border traveling on 25th and 26th and was able to use Mastercard at the truck lanes and pay electronically (using my FJ card followed by Mastercard). I did see signs at both stations saying they would no longer accept VISA after 7/25.

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