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Old 06-29-2012, 01:28 PM   #141
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Eat your hearts out. I never thought I would dance around with fuel at $2.75


$2.759 a gallon equals $0.73 a liter.

This morning they were all raving about the fact the price is coming down, they figure it might be down as far as $1.15 a liter soon.

Your price is only about 63% of what we pay.

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Old 06-30-2012, 04:41 AM   #142
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Actually yes there is, and it may well have nothing to do with 'greed.' You order up 10,000 gallons of fuel (for your station) and you paid 'x.' Next load you may pay far less, but for the load in the ground you still paid 'x.'

Do you cut your price and take a loss? Or charge what you need to cover your hard cost(s)?
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:55 AM   #143
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Actually yes there is, and it may well have nothing to do with 'greed.' You order up 10,000 gallons of fuel (for your station) and you paid 'x.' Next load you may pay far less, but for the load in the ground you still paid 'x.'

Do you cut your price and take a loss? Or charge what you need to cover your hard cost(s)?

This is normal business, most people don't understand the way it works all they know is the price of oil has fallen but the "price at the pump" has not.
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:52 AM   #144
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Actually yes there is, and it may well have nothing to do with 'greed.' You order up 10,000 gallons of fuel (for your station) and you paid 'x.' Next load you may pay far less, but for the load in the ground you still paid 'x.'

Do you cut your price and take a loss? Or charge what you need to cover your hard cost(s)?
Do you keep your price higher than your competition across the street and sell NO gas until their price comes back up, or do you take a loss on THIS tank in hopes it will play your way next load?

People WILL make illegal U-turns to go to the station that is 1 cent cheaper.
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Actually yes there is, and it may well have nothing to do with 'greed.' You order up 10,000 gallons of fuel (for your station) and you paid 'x.' Next load you may pay far less, but for the load in the ground you still paid 'x.'

Do you cut your price and take a loss? Or charge what you need to cover your hard cost(s)?

I ask, did you raise your price as soon as the price went up with no regard that you payed less for what was in your tank befor the new delivery?
Seem stations are quick to raise as soon as oil goes up to make the extra on what they bought at cheeper prices, but slower to lower when the price goes down. Just my thoughts, but your mileage may vary.......
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I try to buy my gas & diesel from an independant station nearby, when he gets a delivery his price is adjusted according to what he pays week to week or day to day.
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Do you keep your price higher than your competition across the street and sell NO gas until their price comes back up, or do you take a loss on THIS tank in hopes it will play your way next load?

People WILL make illegal U-turns to go to the station that is 1 cent cheaper.


And the flip side of this is, if you buy 10,000 gallons of fuel at 10 cents cheaper than your competition paid across the street, do you undercut his cost, or do you keep your prices in line with his? My guess is, you keep your prices high until HE refills and lowers his.
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I ask, did you raise your price as soon as the price went up with no regard that you payed less for what was in your tank befor the new delivery?
Seem stations are quick to raise as soon as oil goes up to make the extra on what they bought at cheeper prices, but slower to lower when the price goes down. Just my thoughts, but your mileage may vary.......
Thank you. It doesn't work both ways, does it. Nope, no greed here.
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I see stations right across the street from each other that the price varies by 8-10 cents or more.
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Fueling locations, which are mostly convenience stores now days, are usually members of NACS and love to argue both sides of the pricing debate.

They claim that they should be able to sell fuel for what their current inventory cost them and do so until they replace it with cheaper costing inventory (this is the argument when refinery prices are falling but pump prices aren't).

Of course they then argue they should be able to charge more when refinery prices are going up even though the inventory fuel they're selling cost less. Their argument is that by doing so this allows them to be able to purchase the higher priced refinery product.

Amazingly these two arguments are accepted by federal and state watch dogs thus keeping the government out of managing fuel pricing.

Regarding fuel pricing disparaging -

In general large chains that also have their own refineries are more likely to price fuel at the pump closer to the movement of refinery prices (they go down when refinery prices go down and don't wait until they get a cheaper load of fuel).

Dealers who get their fuel from suppliers and thus aren't part of the actual larger chains (they just have a major oil sign) don't have the buying power to move their retail pricing until they get a delivery of cheaper fuel.

Thus you can see two Valero fueling locations near each other having a big difference in price. One location will be call a "Corner Store" which is a Valero company owned and operated location selling fuel for $3.089 and one called "City Food Mart" which is a dealer (with 1-10 locations) selling fuel for $3.299.
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This is normal business, most people don't understand the way it works all they know is the price of oil has fallen but the "price at the pump" has not.
Then explain to me why when you pay X for product in the ground and charge Z and the price of crude sky rockets up for a hurricane or middle east leader waking up on the wrong side of the bed does the price instantly go up??? This is the same product in the ground yet they spike the prices. It happened just yesterday around here! Crude went up close to 10% and they instantly raised the price 5 cents within hours!! This is called gouging and no matter how you people try to justify it it is just that.
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I ask, did you raise your price as soon as the price went up with no regard that you payed less for what was in your tank befor the new delivery?
Seem stations are quick to raise as soon as oil goes up to make the extra on what they bought at cheeper prices, but slower to lower when the price goes down. Just my thoughts, but your mileage may vary.......
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This is never ending argument. The people that own oil stocks or are business or former business owners are almost always on the side of "gouging".

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This is never ending argument. The people that own oil stocks or are business or former business owners are almost always on the side of "gouging".

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