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Old 05-10-2013, 08:42 PM   #15
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Know what else burns me? When a jurisdiction decides we're too stupid to know how to use the automatic shut-off tang on the fuel nozzle and you have to hold the nozzle handle for the duration of the fill up.
When this happens, I just wedge the gas cap under the lever on the nozzle handle; same principle as the little shutoff lever. No way am I gonna stand there for ten minutes squeezing the handle.
Works great, never had a problem with overflow.
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If the pump has a button that says pay inside credit, pay outside credit, or cash, use the pay inside credit. Will give you as much as you want.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:57 PM   #17
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I don't find this a problem. I just swipe the card again. It take less time to swipe a second time than it does to walk inside, possibly wait behind another customer, tell the clerk that I think I'm going to use $150 in gas, and then walk back to the pump. It's just not a big deal.
However, not having the lever lock on the handle does tick me off. I'm going to start carrying some small wood block to prop the handle open.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:07 PM   #18
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I just double swipe the Penfed card at the pump, if necessary, and get 5% off the purchase when the invoice comes in. What ever works for you, no big deal
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:11 PM   #19
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The local Sheets cuts off at $100, and you will have to swipe another card. I was there several weeks ago and after it quit at $100. I tried to just swipe the card again. No go. Went inside and talked to the clerk and he told me to use another card. I don't have another card. Had to leave and find another station to fill up. Oh, and I used my only CC at the next station to fill up, with out problems.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:03 AM   #20
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Just completed 2900 mile trip, Montana to California and return. Was able to swipe card twice at all but one station, located in Redmond Oregon. Most cut off limits were 90 to 100 dollar range on our trip. I had no problems at all. I will say that I usually don't run the fuel tank down to anywhere near empty, and usually only require 20 to 30 gallons at fuel stops.
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Thanks for the replies.

It just made no sense to me.
Filling-up across the street at the Grocery Store is no problem.
From Home to New Orleans and back was no problem.

Flying J is 40 miles away so that was NOT an option.
I was not to a 1/4 tank but still wold not drive that far for gas.

They admitted it was not a card nor a drive off problem.
They told me to use the SAME Shell card as many times as I needed.
Going inside with the card negates the convenience of having a card swipe at the pump.

Plus the manager would not talk directly to me. He/she would only talk through the clerk, saying that is the way the pumps were setup.

Just an apparently another arbitrary and capricious rule by someone that has no idea of the real world. With today's gas prices $100.00 would not even fill up my Dad's old 1959 Pontaic.

I thought they were in business to sell customer service, as Gas can be bought at many places.

Apparently Shell does not see a need to respond, as other than their automated response there has been no explanation.

Still not a very Customer Friendly situation. I appreciate good Customer Service
when I find it and reward it by return business.

The good news is the Motor Home had not been driven since before my wife's heart surgery and re-admissions. It ran great. It was parked the first part of December, started weekly and the generator run twice a moth. From the ending last trip millage, with all the idling and generator running, I still got almost 8.5 MPG on that tank of gas.
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I've had that happen a lot up and down the east coast, and with different suppliers. They're trying to protect themselves from drive-offs. It frustrates me to no end because at todays' gas prices, I can exceed $75 filling my F150 truck. Know what else burns me? When a jurisdiction decides we're too stupid to know how to use the automatic shut-off tang on the fuel nozzle and you have to hold the nozzle handle for the duration of the fill up.
Besides sticking the gas cap under the squeeze handle, an empty soda can works well also, and will bend and crinkle to fit under any handle. The empty plastic soda bottle will also, but you have to use the sturdier end of the bottle or it collapses to much. I'm with you and don't like stations that do that, however I do understand why they do it. "Customers" will use the locking device, then say the forgot to turn it off and don't have the money, blah, blah, blah. Or, just drive off.

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The limit at the p ump is set by the station and no one else. Your CC does not limit gas sales unless you have set a limit yourself.

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I called my CC company and they stated that it was not their policy, but the policy of the service station. At one service station a limit of $75 was set. I swiped a second time and it cut off again at $75. I still needed diesel and I went inside. They scanned the card and said it was rejected. Yeah! It was rejected alright, by their policy. I just went on down the road a couple hundred miles and never ran into that problem again. I now also have the PFJ pump start card.

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No big deal. A second swipe is less than a minute.
And nuthin we can do about it!! :-)
Nay, nay, sez me. That's another minute out of my life I'll never get back.
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This has been discussed many times in the past. The bottom line is there are many players in this hand. Depending on who the players are, the contract between the players, the state you are in and the type of card you have, cut off limits may be imposed, or not and at different levels. All of this is behind the scenes and can not be sorted out by the consumer.

The players mentioned above are the:
1. consumer
2. merchant
3. card processing company
4. bank the card is affiliated with

Any of these can institute a limit on a purchase. Much of who is doing the limiting is based on who holds liability for non-payment.

Years ago I determined which cards I could use and pump what I needed. If the rules changed, they lost my business.
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The limit at the p ump is set by the station and no one else. Your CC does not limit gas sales unless you have set a limit yourself.

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That was basicly what Discover Card said in response to my email on this subject. Discover went on to say sometimes the filling station sends their CC charges to a processing center for payment in bulk form. The processing center may set a dollar limit to make more money, because they get paid on a per CC use/swipe basis.
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So far (no pun intended) I've only had to use my Pen Fed CC. Yes I've swiped it more then once at the pump for diesel. Never had it rejected for any reason, but I'm prepared with a Visa, American Express as back ups. PS I also have the Flying J card for Life Time Good Sam Members .08 cents off per gallon. I don't use it as I get 5% off with my Pen Fed CC. deSanford
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When this happens, I just wedge the gas cap under the lever on the nozzle handle; same principle as the little shutoff lever. No way am I gonna stand there for ten minutes squeezing the handle.
Works great, never had a problem with overflow.
They disabled the locks on gas pumps as a safety precaution. When you walk away from the pump you may accumulate static elecricity on yourself and when you return and touch the nozzle you might discharge and cause a boom. Note that most pumps don't have the lock disabled on diesel fuel as it is not as prime...
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Sorry, but I don't buy the argument about the station being the one driving the limit. Especially when you see a sign on the pump that sets a VISA limit of $75 and a MC limit of $150. Yes, perhaps the station put the number on it but I bet it was driven by what the credit card company was willing to indemnify. In any event, NONE of these fools ever think of RV'ers when they pull this crap. Two swipes on a $75 or even $150 limit doesn't help me much when I need 125 gal of $5.00 diesel.
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