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Old 05-11-2013, 07:35 PM   #29
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We have two Good Sam / Pilot Flying J cards for this reason. We have a 150 gallon fuel tank, one swipe of the card and fill it up, grab the receipt and go! We rarely go inside.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #30
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They disabled the locks on gas pumps as a safety precaution. When you walk away from the pump you may accumulate static elecricity on yourself and when you return and touch the nozzle you might discharge and cause a boom. Note that most pumps don't have the lock disabled on diesel fuel as it is not as prime...
But they let me pump during lightning storms........
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:49 PM   #31
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Geese people. The auto shutoff at a consumer pump has been in effect for many, many decades. One, it helps prevent fraud, two, it helps prevent too much fuel gushing out on the ground after a drive off (and people have done that), three, several other reasons either logical to the retailer or the bank.

These days, if you trust the station, just leave your card (or drivers license) with the teller and tell them to turn the pump on so it won't stop. Or use a specialty card like Flying J. Or just re-swipe your card (after you've let your bank know you have a large tank - but it only takes one call to the CC holder - usually).

For me, I've informed my bank I have a 90 gallon tank, and I'd be doing multiple swipes. No problem for years, seems they haven't forgotten.
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Old 05-12-2013, 01:13 AM   #32
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At Isleta, NM, south of Abq, NM., I once swiped my Visa card 5 times. I could only pump $75.00 at a time and I needed about 90 gals. Not a problem.

This was on Jan. 1 2012. Told the guy behind me I was going to be there a while. so he went to another pump.

Many times I go in the office, give them a estimate, get approved for that amount and leave with my credit card in my hand. I only get charged what I pump and get a receipt either at the pump or inside. So far I haven't had any problems.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:23 AM   #33
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Geese people. The auto shutoff at a consumer pump has been in effect for many, many decades. One, it helps prevent fraud, two, it helps prevent too much fuel gushing out on the ground after a drive off (and people have done that), three, several other reasons either logical to the retailer or the bank.
I understand where you are coming from but would not the easier answer be to not have it Installed in this first place? We are still referring to the disabled device that maintains flow after you let go of the lever.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:44 PM   #34
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............These days, if you trust the station, just leave your card (or drivers license) with the teller and tell them to turn the pump on so it won't stop. Or use a specialty card like Flying J. Or just re-swipe your card....................
No, no, read my prior post. Going to the teller takes up more valuable minutes from my life expectancy. I'll never get those minutes back. I need those minutes to do other things, like get on this forum all the damned time.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:43 AM   #35
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Going to the teller in this case would not help.
The Shell station manager said that the pump as an auto cutoff at $100.00.
They can not over-ride it.

I remember when cars had gas tanks that 25 or more gal., like my Dad's '59 Pontiac. You could not fill it up with high test on one card swipe today, because of the price of the gas.

It seems to me that many forget that all they really sell is Customer Service.
Every product they have can be bought elsewhere.
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:50 AM   #36
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DW called the CC company after our card was shut off after multi swipe stop. CC company said they did not turn it off, turns out it was the company or station. Scratched them off the map.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:29 PM   #37
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This same post comes up every so often. If you ask the credit card company, they say it's the dealer, you ask the dealer, they say it's the CC company. Here's how it was explained before.....it's neither. There is an intermediary that is insuring the gas station that every card will be paid, fraudulent or not. THEY are the ones limiting the amount because it falls on them to pay.

I prefer paying at the pumps to eliminate fraud. Anytime you leave your CC or ID with the attendant, you're asking for trouble. If you must, you better have your spouse standing there watching the card while you pump.

I also use the PenFed card which only pays if you use it at the pump. On rare occasions, I have to swipe a third time and then have to change to another card.
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Seems to me crooks can't use your card without knowing the pin number.
Where I live we have to put the pin number in after swiping the card in the pump.
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The card numbers can and have been stolen at the pumps before and will be again. Just running the card at the pump is not fool proof either.
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Seems to me crooks can't use your card without knowing the pin number.
Where I live we have to put the pin number in after swiping the card in the pump.
Having to use your PIN with a CC is pretty rare. Asking for your ZIP code is more common at those pumps that require anything other then a swipe.

With a debit card, yeah, they always ask for the pin.
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An interesting quick update.

I received the following e-mail from Shell Oil Co.:

"Please accept our apology for any inconvenience you experienced at one of our locations. Delivering world-class customer service is a high priority for Shell. We are disappointed when we fail to meet your expectations, and we believe the experience you had is an exception to the way Shell branded retailers typically operate.

In line with this, If you may please send us the station's address and we would like to know your contact number and if we can forward your contact information to the owner of the site, in case they decide to get in touch with you regarding the issue."

Apparently corporate is unaware they are not RV friendly, as I indicated in my e-mail to Shell. We will see.
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:43 PM   #42
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Although I hate the auto cutoffs in general, I'd be a little more accepting if it was tied to a certain number of gallons rather than an arbitrary dollar amount. That way it would at least adjust a little with fuel price variance. When gas approaches $4 a gallon I can't even fill my pickup for $100, much less the MH.

Last trip out in the MH we ran across the lowest cutoff I've ever seen, at $50 (it was a Chevron station). When I tried to re-swipe it said I had to go inside. I decided to finish filling up elsewhere rather than run another 3 transactions to fill up.
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