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Old 09-21-2010, 09:03 PM   #1
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Unhappy Goodyear Tires rivering

Hi. I am a member of several other groups, but joined this one to see if anyone has input on the problem and cause/correction of Goodyear tire rivering. I put new G670 275/80r22.5' on my 2001 HR Imperial in April,,2006. to date i have 23,000 miles on them.
In april, 2009, i had a right front tire replaced because of rivering. Goodyear paid for a new tire. The tires had 15,373 miles on them at that point.
Now, at 7,600 miles since replacement that right front tire has again started rivering.
the shocks are good.
Any suggestions as to cause and corrective action/ Ihave weighted the four corners and am running recommended tire pressures of 100 psiu in the rears and 110 psi in the fronts. Thanks. fprambler
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What is "rivering" on a tire?

Also, glad to have you here on iRV2.

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Is it an uneven, wobbly, wavy wear across the entire face or just on the tread edge/shoulder? In my days of working with tires, wobbly wavy wear across the entire face is almost always caused by bad shocks. Wear near one edge or the other is always a ball joint issue.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:23 AM   #4
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What is "rivering" on a tire?
Yes,,, Never heard of this before,,,,Inquiring minds need to know!

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Old 09-22-2010, 10:16 PM   #5
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Here is what Dick Lorntson of Precision Frame says about it:

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A ripple on the extreme inside or outside of the tire in the first to inch of the tread may indicate “River Wear”. This type of wear is not necessarily an indication of anything in need of correction. Some tires wear in this manner and it is considered irregular but acceptable wear. If it gets extreme, the cure is a tire rotation.
Here is an excellent article (with pictures) on tire wear symptoms and the terminology.
http://www.kaltire.com/index.php?pag...ear-conditions
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:15 PM   #6
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Tire Rivering

Ken asked what tire rivering was. In my case it is a wavey wear pattern confined to the outside rib of the tire. The consesnsus of another group that responded to my guestion was the Goodyear used too soft a rubber compound, that once started there was no correction for that tire, and to run tire pressures 5 to 10 psi higher than the Goodyear tire chart using actual wheel load weights.
Goodyear area rep stated that rivering was caused by hi speed ( interstate) straight line driving.
The service shop that I visited yesterday recommended buying Goodrich tires that are made with a decoupler rib on the outside tread. I looked at a Bridgestone tire yesterday, and it too seems to have this feature. Bottom line, stay away from Goodyear tires for heavrier coaches.
The condition is not caused by a mechanical problem with the coach.
Yesterday, I had the front two tires trued, or shaved, reversed the faulty tire on the rim, and had the front balanced. we will see how long that lasts.
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I've had the river wear or shoulder step problem on a couple of Goodyear G670s. Just a cosmetic thing - the tire lasts just fine.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:12 PM   #8
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The G670 is notorious for "rivering". The Goodyear explanation is always user error. The fix is another brand tire, but increasing the tire pressure 10 lb over recommended pressure will help considerably. However, it makes for a rougher ride. The G670 works great on the rear, but never on the steering axle.

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I guess that since I refuse to have Goodyear (or Firestone) on a vehicle, I have never had reason to use the term....

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I too have a Goodyear problem and found this thread helpful. With 41,000 miles on my 2010 Discovery with a Spartan chassis, I have had the fronts switched once to the inside rear and now the fronts are "cupped" and "Rivered" on the outside and inside of both fronts. I am convinced that it is a Goodyear problem, can I put two new Michelins on the steer axle and make the problem go away?
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The G670 is notorious for "rivering". The Goodyear explanation is always user error. The fix is another brand tire, but increasing the tire pressure 10 lb over recommended pressure will help considerably. However, it makes for a rougher ride. The G670 works great on the rear, but never on the steering axle.

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Goodyear rivering is not just a problem on MH's, or with the G670 tires. It seems to be a problem on most steer tires from Goodyear, big trucks have the same problem too.
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Since it is only your front right that has this problem. Something else is causing it.

All my 6 G670 275/R70/22.5 show riving the same. Front and rear.
It has caused no driving/steering or riding problem yet in their 8 years & 6 months they have been on my MH.
Planning on replacing them May 2015 with same.

Michelin XRV tires only lasted 4 & 6 years on my MH before they had zipper blow outs. Besides Michelin having a O warranty on cracking and G670's have a 7 year warranty for cracking. Is a no brainer. I rather put up with a little riving that causes no problem.
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Welcome to IRV2! It's great to have you join the gang!

There's been a lot of discussion on that subject on the forum. I would suggest that you do a search and see what comes up. Hope you enjoy the forum!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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