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Old 12-03-2015, 06:16 AM   #29
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No, it really doesnt take all kinds. It is just that there are all kinds.

Wow, that statement makes so much sense, and on SO MANY levels!
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:56 AM   #30
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I personally don't know what the big deal is if one is following the local ordinances.
Aside from the OP saying they were not following the local ordinances the real issue is blocking emergency vehicle traffic be being inconsiderate. If they had parked their truck on the same side as the camper then there are clear lanes. If they had parked on the other side but not next to the camper there would be an open lane. Putting the truck across the street from the camper guarantees a tight squeeze if it is possible to get through. Not a problem unless you live on the street the other side of the needless roadblock because somebody is being thoughtless and inconsiderate.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:05 AM   #31
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We used to have a faded blue, ratty, barely running school bus / camper that regularly parked on the street right in front of our condo when we lived in So. Cal. The guy knew exactly how many days he could leave it in place without being towed, and he would stregically move it around the neighborhood.

Of course, we lived in the unit next to the street. If there was ever enough room for it to be parked in front of our place, I would quickly go out and move my car into that area carefully ensuring he could not fit the bus there.
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Old 12-03-2015, 02:36 PM   #32
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Big deal, Hell, most side streets in Chicago are wide enough for only a single vehicle and are one-way to boot. Fire trucks, ambulances and coppers have no problem getting about on them. Nor do delivery trucks, moving vans etc.



Nah, your argument has no merit.

I disagree. Emergency vehicle access is a big deal. Under snow conditions we have "no street parking rules". Ticket and tow, about $400+. Why, for emergency vehicle access. Why, people break legs while sledding, without permission on private land and while parking on both sides of the street in an area where SAR needs to comets help bring not one but two flatlanders out. Fires happen. Heart attacks happen.

"Copper"? Enough said!
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If it was that much of a safety issue... why choose to rant to those of us who can't do anything about it as opposed to mentioning his concerns to the offender or by escalating it to the HOA president or by calling the police. Obviously it was not that big of deal!!!!


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How do you know that wasn't done? Some folks like to kvetch even while doing something about the problem.
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Why bring it up here? Logic, we are RV owners. To me it's a big deal and he should have reported it to the local police. They know the local parking ordinances.
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If it was that much of a safety issue... why choose to rant to those of us who can't do anything about it as opposed to mentioning his concerns to the offender or by escalating it to the HOA president or by calling the police. Obviously it was not that big of deal!!!!


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Aside from the OP saying they were not following the local ordinances the real issue is blocking emergency vehicle traffic be being inconsiderate. If they had parked their truck on the same side as the camper then there are clear lanes. If they had parked on the other side but not next to the camper there would be an open lane. Putting the truck across the street from the camper guarantees a tight squeeze if it is possible to get through. Not a problem unless you live on the street the other side of the needless roadblock because somebody is being thoughtless and inconsiderate.
Blocking emergency vehicle access is a violation of ordinances in most cities and towns I have ever lived in. Even causing a roadblock for normal access is most likely a violation of an ordnance.

So the big question is, if there is parking on both sides of the street, which one is in violation of the any ordnance?

I'm not a lawyer so I'm not going to contribute much more to this thread.

Thanks all for titillating my mind.
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Interesting thread. Reminds me of a thread several months ago regarding folks who fiddled around taking forever to dump their tanks when there was a line of RV's behind them waiting to dump.

The majority of posters took the position that this is very inconsiderate (I agree)...but there was a few that said "life is too short to worry about stuff like that".

Seems like a similar spread of opinions here.
I think we can all agree that there are some pretty dumb drivers on the road.
And unfortunately, some of them have motorhomes...
Personally I would never risk having a slideout extending an addition 2 ft out into the road. Too much of a risk of a driver hitting it while texting
For this same type of reasoning, I pull very close to the curb when making right hand turns in my car, not only because it is one of the vehicle codes, but it lessens the chance of me getting rear ended.

And don't get me started about shopping carts left in parking spaces.....

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I cannot say for the rest but my reason for getting into it is to point out that it was a stupid thing to do when there was an easy alternative. It seems that among other things we no longer teach manners to people. All it is is basic consideration for everyone else in the neighborhood. Maybe some of the folks complaining about the complaint will get a clue.
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I certainly have a clue! When I responded I never eluded that the offender was without fault in his actions. However that being said the OP made a point to insert that the unit was "new" and as such I am chalking it up to both excitement and inexperience. I am sure as the family becomes more acclimated with their coach their strategy will change. If they continue to be inconsiderate then perhaps there is justification for getting oneself in a rant. And I am positive that if it continues that their direct neighbors..the ones that are impacted the most will escalate their concerns.

Net...Net...I for one am excited that a "new" family is joining the RV Community. I would rather focus on the positive opposed to the negative.
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We usually asked people to move their vehicles in similar situations. Parking more than 20" from curb is a violation here. This code is also used also for parking on wrong side of street. Most municipalities and counties have the proper codes in place and of course the proper means to enforce them IF NEEDED. Driveways are not to be blocked. We have snow restrictions which are enforced. You have emergency situations especially in a mountain resort community. You try to seek compliance first and if you can't you take the necessary action. Code enforcement can also be called.

As a volunteer we were often called by dispatch to a scene where we were asked to clear blockages, often using the PA. Almost always we could handle without a deputy but sometimes there is that special person who insists on meeting usually a very big not always happy LEO. We often worked in tandem with code, they could tow, and with deputies, they can tow or be left on our own during really busy situations.

Normally having a digital camera, ticket book, pen in hand got the job done. We also mentioned we would have their car towed, we couldn't but they didn't know this and they would move.

If you were blocking or in disabled parking we wrote $295 city. If you argued or threatened $978 county. If really threatened call for backup - arrive code, verify infraction and wait for you to finish.

Some situations are just common sense and for public or individual safety - get an LEO. That's what jails are for.

When one person does it usually many more do and a really big problem occurs.
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