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Old 10-02-2011, 02:53 PM   #155
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I think it foolish to beat this dead hoarse, those who chose to, will, those that chose not to carry won't. Insulting one and other won't change a single mind. Personally, those that do should not be so anxious to advertise!
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Hmmm... More people are killed in auto accidents than in robberies, etc. Yet we all keep on driving. Wouldn't it be safer to to just not drive?
But you have car insurance right?
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[QUOTE=VA-redneck;972872]Not ment as an insult just an opinion. Many people do not have insurance and that is a personal choice.

I take that as an apology so lets get back to the subject and stop bickering over it.
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Hmmm... More people are killed in auto accidents than in robberies, etc. Yet we all keep on driving. Wouldn't it be safer to to just not drive?
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I am not a fool.

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Francesca as well as LadyFitz and others,

I apologize if I have offended anyone. *It is a personal decision on my part and I feel with my training it would be foolish for me to not be prepared. *In a perfect world there would be no need for guns and no deaths from auto accidents. *I work at a hospital and there are so many avoidable incidents. *I empathize with victims and hope I am able to avoid confrontation. Most trained persons who are armed do their best to avoid escalation as a practice. Let me extend an olive branch in hopes we can all get along. *I servered and placed myself in harms way for everyones rights to their opinions, as many on this site have. *At times it was not pleasant but something I felt necessary *and would do again. *You have your rights to your opinions and that is what makes our nation great. *I meant only to express my very strong opinion and
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You know, the funny thing abut this thread is 99% of those that take a gun in their RV you would never know they are gun owners if you met them at an RV park. And yet when a non-gun person finds out that you have a gun or support gun ownership they make judgments about you and your opinions. It is a choice, and it is a LEGAL choice, please don't judge me and I certainly won't judge you for not having one.

I really do believe that is where the rub is here, when gun owners are called out as kooks it really makes a person defensive.
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Why do police carry weapons ?
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Hum the orginal question was" How many rv'rs carry guns". Quite a few it looks like. The fact is in most cases it is legal. With that said, those of us who do do not care if someone else does or not. Same goes for concealed carry. I fail to understand why others have such a problem with what someone else does within the scope of the law. JMHO
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But you have car insurance right?
Will car insurance keep you from being killed in an accident?
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I apologize if I have offended anyone. *It is a personal decision on my part and I feel with my training it would be foolish for me to not be prepared. *In a perfect world there would be no need for guns and no deaths from auto accidents. *I work at a hospital and there are so many avoidable incidents. *I empathize with victims and hope I am able to avoid confrontation. Most trained persons who are armed do their best to avoid escalation as a practice. Let me extend an olive branch in hopes we can all get along. *I servered and placed myself in harms way for everyones rights to their opinions, as many on this site have. *At times it was not pleasant but something I felt necessary *and would do again. *You have your rights to your opinions and that is what makes our nation great. *I meant only to express my very strong opinion and
i meant no disrespect.
Thank you for apologizing.
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Will car insurance keep you from being killed in an accident?
Meh, should've known a one liner wouldn't do it. You see, I carry a gun for a living and people just assume that it is the only reason I carry. It is not, I carry to protect myself. Also, I seldom like getting into these conversations because it is someone's own choice whether they want to be armed or not. However, I feel that people on the "don't carry side" are very dismissive of people on the "carry" side and viceversa. Like I said, its a personal choice and there are good arguments on boh sides. As a practical person, I don't buy into the hyperbole on either side. I do not believe people are coming to the brink of death by the millions and only saved because someone happened to have a gun, and I rarely believe the third hand stories of terror at the rest stop. On the other side, being a responsible gun owner and knowing many responsible gun owners, I do not believe the stereotype of the cowboy, uneducated, tobacco chewing, trouble-seeking gun owner.

Now, a few points to add: Getting away from the hyperbole, you are about as likely to get killed at a rest area as you are to win millions playing the lottery. Probably will never ever happen. But that is not all that could happen to you. So, going back to the insurance comparison, no insurance will no help you any if you get killed. It will however help you if you are ever in a fender bender, a rock goes through your windshield, a semi looses control and smashes your car into a million pieces, or a neighborhood kid keys the door. In the same manner, to me anyways, my gun is insurance against ANY harm someone might mean me. Whether it might be a robbery, carjacking, assault, or any other myriad of things that ARE a lot more likely to occur. Forget the serial killers and escaped convicts and all other exagerated crap stories on the "pro" side of the argument. Nowadays you are more lilely to run into two or three drunks at a gas station that decided you looked at them the wrong way and simply wont take "I dont want any trouble" for an answer. In the last year I have been privy to "insight" into two such situations.

The first one was at a gas station. The victim was pumping gas with his girlfriend in the car. A young man approahed and started "picking" on him. Nothing he said, no matter how non-confrontational appeased the other guy. Now two or three of his friends joined in and it only got worse. Finally, the other guy with his friends behind him verbally expressed that he meant to assault the victim and started coming towards him. The victim pulled out a gun and warned the guy to stay back or he would be shot. The guy kept coming and was shot. The guy that was shot and his friends fled the scene and were caught by the cops a bit later.

The second one was at a taco shop ordering window. The victim was ordering food and two drunk guys were in line behind him. All of a sudden they started in on him, calling him names and saying they would beat him. The victim started walking to his truck repeatedly saying he didnt want any problems. Right as all three reached the victims truck, one guy pulled out a knife and while the victim was distracted by the knife the other guy sucker punched him. The victim hit the ground and was repeatedly kicked all over, including the head. They got about $20 from the victim and fled. The victim ended up in the hospital with a concussion.

Now, don't get me wrong. Shootings are never EVER glamorous, and never EVER as portrayed on tv. Bad guys dont freeze at the sight of a gun, dont stop fighting or die with just one or two shots, pulling the trigger is never easy, and it is never EVER easy to cope with the emotional aftermath of having shot someone. That said, I will defend myself if I need to and my gun is the tool I choose to defend myself with. It is NOT a deterrent, and it will not come out until I am ready to shoot. It is not something I take lightly, and I would have to be in fear for my life or someone else's life to go there.

All I'm trying to say is that I'd rather be safe than sorry. I know guys that could've had their gun in XYZ situation but didn't and regreted it. That won't be me.
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Being from Canada, I just can't wrap my mind around the gun thing. I should consider myself lucky I guess!
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Personally, on a public forum such as this one, I don't think it's in anyone's best interest to advertise whether one carries firearms or not.

Just my opinion, however to each his own.

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