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Old 09-25-2011, 01:03 PM   #15
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Got this a couple of week ago from a guy with whom I attend Church and occationally accompany to the firing range. He's a former Pastor and one of three of the class members who teach our Bible class.

Shooting Advice:
Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not to protect you.
Never let someone or thing that threatens you get inside arms length and never say "Ive got a gun". If you feel you need to use deadly force for heavens sake let the first sound they hear be the safety clicking off, and they shouldn't have time to hear anythin g after that if you are doing your job.
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"Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it's going to be empty."
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"Do something. It may be wrong, but do something."
"Shoot what's available, as long as it's available, until something else becomes available."
"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If you have a gun, what in the hell do you have to be paranoid for?"
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"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work, but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."
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Not me-
Either I don't trust myself enough, or I'm not scared enough.
Not sure which it is!

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If I'm up and out of the shower, you can assume I'm armed.

But, I do this for a living - at least for alittle while longer. :-)

But, for the everyday person, unless you're used to carrying, practice routinely, or deploy what you carry routinely, I don't recommend it. You want something for home defense? Buy a shotgun.

"Point & pull" the most natural interface ever invented.
Oh man! So many straight lines and this is a family oriented forum!
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Originally Posted by LadyFitz... View Post
Oh man! So many straight lines and this is a family oriented forum!
Oops . I hadn't really thought about verbiage. My bad!
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:30 PM   #23
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2 of them, I keep a Glock 9m in front by drivers seat and a Glock 40 cal in the night stand in bedroom. I never leave home without one but it's my job.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:10 PM   #24
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Paranoia is a wonderful thing, everyone should keep at least one in the basement. Seriously, if you feel the need to be armed at all times, YOU have a problem and it ain't me. I would wager the number of times a loaded fire arm fired in self defense saved the day since the 1880's is mighty small.
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When we crossed the Canadian border, the border guard was absolutely convinced that we had guns. After all, Texas license plates on an RV almost guarantees it doesn't it? Of course, on that trip, we didn't.

What would be an interesting statistic would be the average response time for police in an CG. It may take minutes in populated towns. In some of the places where we've camped, it might be a lot longer than a few minutes. Given that more often than not, our cell phone coverage is spotty at best in a CG, expecting the police to figure out that we need protection and get there quickly is expecting alot. I suspect that we are far from the last people in the RV community to figure that out.

On top of that, RVs tend to be a pretty independent lot. There are lots of us who get a lot of pleasure doing things for ourselves. There is a sense of security in baking your own bread in a dutch oven in front of a campfire. There is also a sense of security that comes from knowing that you have the ability to protect your family if that is needed, too.
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Paranoia is a wonderful thing, everyone should keep at least one in the basement. Seriously, if you feel the need to be armed at all times, YOU have a problem and it ain't me. I would wager the number of times a loaded fire arm fired in self defense saved the day since the 1880's is mighty small.
It has nothing at all to do with paranoia. It is my responsibility to protect myself no one else's.

The police do little to prevent crime. They are a deterrent to some. Mostly they investigate crime. The police are only minutes away when when seconds count.

I assume based on your comments you don't own a fire extinguisher, after all you could just call the fire department, right.

I am armed when and where legal and I have no problem, not even sure what you meant by your comment "You have a problem".

Living in Canada I can somewhat understand your opinion.

Here in America we have the right to carry and we exercise it. It's not the number of times a firearm has been used in self defense. Rather the crime statistics published by the FBI on how much crime has decreased in states that have "Shall issue" laws. Criminals prefer their victims to be unarmed and defenseless.

Guns were used just over 4 million times this year alone to stop criminal activity. The World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock

"States with Right To Carry laws have lower violent crime rates. On average, they have a 24% lower total violent crime rate, a 19% lower homicide rate, a 39% lower robbery rate, and a 19% lower aggravated assault rate, compared to other states and the District of Columbia. The nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all Right To Carry states. (Data: FBI)"
GunCite: Right-to-Carry State Comparisons

I could go on but I find that people who prefer to rely on others to protect them will never change.

I should add that I am a huge proponent of proper training and regular practice. Until yo have mastered gun safety and the ability to fire from muscle memory and subconscious thought you should not carry a weapon. This involves more than the 24 NRA safety course required in many states to obtain your CHL permit. I'm talking about training like that received from Thunder Ranch. Not to mention understanding the guns laws in your state.
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For the advertizers out there, don't try to enter Canada, it is a red flag to customs and they will tear your rig apart. It is also one of the questions asked when you enter Mexico, do you have any firearms..If you get caught entering either country with guns kiss your a** goodbye, they are not forgiving. Another thought being an empty gun is only a club, be totally prepared mentally and know the consquences.


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