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Old 03-23-2013, 07:30 AM   #15
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Our RV or autos never passes through or overnights in states or other areas where loaded firearms are illegal for us to have with us.

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Old 03-23-2013, 07:31 AM   #16
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I could not agree more if its not in condition 1 it may as well be a bar of soap. [moderator edit]

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Had the local sheriff over the other day because of a theft off of our boat. Conversation turned to guns and he was interested in one of ours. When I gave it to him to look at I said "be careful, it's loaded" He responded "why wouldn't it be?"
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:45 AM   #18
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As you move about this great country how do you keep up with all the different regulations for conceal carry.
Not perfect as things can change rapidly, but Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States by J. Scott Kappas, Esq. is helpful. Handgunlaw.us is also helpful.
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There is an app for the iphone called legal heat. It keeps up with changes fairly well.
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Shotgun, chamber empty but mag full, nothing like the sound of a shot gun racking a round to get someones attention. When we carry handguns they are all loaded and one in the chamber. But when we travel through Canada, the shotgun is empyt, with the ammo stored someplace different and NO handguns. Their country and their rules apply!
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:35 AM   #22
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It depends on the weapon. I have a S&W Special, 5 shot. With that weapon I never have one under the firing pin. Why, because in those days and that model there is not a safety bar to prevent the hammer from engaging with the firing pin. Depending on conditions, any type of a hit to that hammer when it is in the rest position could detonate the round. The new models have the pin in place that will keep the hammer from contact with the round. If the hammer is pulled back, or the trigger pulled the pin gets out of the way to allow the weapon to fire. So, in that case - four rounds - none in the cylinder below the hammer.

As for my SD-40, it has a loaded clip installed but none in the chamber. I'm just safety conscious. Besides, I'm not walking around anticipating a gun fight at the RV coral. If something goes wrong where I'll need it, it is just a simple thing to pull-release and put one in the chamber. Then the round will follow the Crimson Trace. Face it, if you have time to duck the first round missed you, otherwise one in the chamber or not doesn't make much difference.

There is nothing in my wallet that can't be replaced. However, when it comes to personal safety and family safety that is a different story.

I travel in the military system of FAM Camps and the vast majority of military installations (Federal Property) do not allow for the access of firearms. Many times there is a big sign that says, "....subject up to $10,000 in fines, imprisonment, or both...." Is carrying really worth it when traveling.

I must not visit high crime areas. In all my years I have never, never had to take my weapon out of its holster. I have never been in an RV park wishing I had a weapon.

Carrying one does give a person peace of mind - but why? Could I point and shoot at a person? You bet your life I can.
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:45 AM   #23
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Mody n Domy: It is difficult:
The Federal Firearms Law allows travelers to transport (not conceal carry) between States but States and some cities, interpret the "passing through" portion of that law differently. If you stay overnight or deviate from a direct route through the state you may be violating their "possession" law and subject to arrest. The Federal Transporting Law then becomes a possible defense when you go to court.
Most Northeast States are restrictive and it is nearly impossible to comply with any degree of confidence. The NRA site also lists some city regulations. New York city has very tough laws but so does Buffalo.

It's been discussed before but possession of hollow point ammunition is a violation in New Jersey. As a resident, you can buy it and keep it on your property there- but transporting is strictly controlled. From out of state you are vulnerable, particularly if it is loaded or in a magazine...
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Full magazine. None in the chamber. None under the hammer for the revolvers. I agree with Wayne on this.

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One might make it through life and never encounter any kind of a " life threatening" problem, RV'ing, hiking, traveling (of any kind) sitting in your lazyboy in your living room, in bed sleeping, etc.............. when and if trouble ever finds you, you will not have time or be able to think fast enough if one is not prepared to the fullest extent possible,no loading ,no racking, no saying "hold on a minute"...... and don't ask me how I know this.
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Thanks Chillybilly.....great official information everyone should read.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:43 AM   #27
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I agree with wayne on not having one in the chamber the sound of the slide going back and forth scares the crap out of most people. Bin There Dun That.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:46 AM   #28
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One might make it through life and never encounter any kind of a " life threatening" problem, RV'ing, hiking, traveling (of any kind) sitting in your lazyboy in your living room, in bed sleeping, etc.............. when and if trouble ever finds you, you will not have time or be able to think fast enough if one is not prepared to the fullest extent possible,no loading ,no racking, no saying "hold on a minute"...... and don't ask me how I know this.
Palehorse, you hit the target dead on. Unless you practice and are able to quickly react to a situation, you may be over powered and lose control of the weapon. Some gun rights advocates are former gun control advocates who were caught in a dangerous situation and were lucky to survive.

I was concerned about leaving my weapons unsecured when away from my 5ver. So I searched for a small gun safe to install in the trailer. I couldn't find one that fit or I thought was suitable. So I custom ordered one, expensive, and had it shipped to the RV manufacturer and had it installed in the closet while they were building my 5th-wheel. Leaving a weapon unsecure in a trailer is only arming a crook.

Also, it gives us a nice place to store valuables.

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