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Old 03-23-2013, 11:54 AM   #29
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That is really unique Carl, I have never seen or heard of a built in safe in a RV. Very nice!
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I agree with wayne on not having one in the chamber the sound of the slide going back and forth scares the crap out of most people. Bin There Dun That.
I think the sound of the safety coming off has a more positive influence.

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I have a Ruger 380 Auto in the truck with a loaded magazine in place, but without one in the chamber. I have it in a zippered case. In the Class A, I have a Mossburg 500 pistol grip with 18 1/4" barrel. It is kept in the bedroom. I have the first shot coming out as #8 and then 4 #OO buckshot. The chamber is empty. [moderator edit]
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I think the sound of the safety coming off has a more positive influence.

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Where is the safety on a glock,sig,xd,xdm,revolver? I believe fully loaded ready to go if needed and own what ever you want. Did you here of the woman who had a intruder called here husband he said shoot him she unloaded on him and he said don't shoot me anymore, needed a bigger gun. #1 malfunction is the first racking putting one in the camber why take the chance.
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I use to keep all my guns loaded with the safety on. One night a guy with a pistol pushed his way into my nephew's house and robbed him. He painted school buses for for a living and kept a couple of thousand dollars on hand to pay for supplies. As soon as the robber ran out the front door, My nephew ran to the closet and got his shotgun. He started chasing the guy and pulled the trigger a dozen times, but nothing happened. In the excitement he forgot where the safety was. The guy outran him and got away. He lost twenty three hundred dollars because he forgot where the safety was. I can see where it would be easy to forget under stress. Since that time I leave the safety off and the chamber empty. When I practice firing any of my weapons, I set them down, Grab them up, rack them and fire.
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Your nephew was lucky the safety was on. The bad guy was going away with stolen property. In almost every state, it is a crime to use deadly force (shotgun) to protect property. Deadly force is only legal to protect human life.

It ain't good, but it is the law. If the nephew had killed the robber while he was going away with the stolen property, he would face a murder charge. That's just the way it is. Anyone using firearms for any reason should read the laws.
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That is really unique Carl, I have never seen or heard of a built in safe in a RV. Very nice!
There isn't anyone who builds them. I had Sportsman Steel Safe Co. in Houston custom build it to my specs. Peterson Industries (EXCEL 5th-wheel) bolted the safe directly to the frame and pin box plate. The safe is 14" x14" x 60" and will hold 4 long guns and 4 handguns depending on how I pack them. I use a padded zippered gun case for traveling to prevent damage to the guns.

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It is nost important for anyone carrying firearms in RVs, or otherwise, to have accurate knowledge about the firearm law in the state where you are in. Ignorance of the state law you are in can land you in jail, at the least.

There are no generalizations about what you can and can't do about firearms in any state. If you don't know the law in the state you are in, you may in up un jail and worse.
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Your nephew was lucky the safety was on. The bad guy was going away with stolen property. In almost every state, it is a crime to use deadly force (shotgun) to protect property. Deadly force is only legal to protect human life.

It ain't good, but it is the law. If the nephew had killed the robber while he was going away with the stolen property, he would face a murder charge. That's just the way it is. Anyone using firearms for any reason should read the laws.
Not true in Texas. Deadly force is legal for protection of private property. That would include your RV.

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